Iraq War Blowback ¶ Islam Terror in Europe ¶ Mohammed Bouyeri - Updated | 5 comments (5 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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Must be emptied before peace returns to the individual.

Hatred fueled by Insecurity - Injustice - Lack of Political Leadership - War.

Society must find its balance Economic - Social - Human Rights - Religion - Freedoms - Participation - Community Spirit - Responsibility for the individuals.

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by Oui (Oui) on Thu Jul 14th, 2005 at 03:36:30 AM EST

Excellent overview (none / 1)

I had been thinking about writing a diary about the case against Bouyeri since with the recent turmoil, this news is snowing under - regrettably. Again, I find it is no longer necessary. Great work, recommended.

One more recommendation to make. The Dutch expat Pieter Dorsman on Peaktalk (www.peaktalk.com) gives a fine day-by-day report on how the case developed. He also argues another strong point: that this case offers an excellent look into the mind of a true jihadist. And when you look, it is scary stuff.

Peaktalk is not for everyone, Pieter is more a libertarian and supports the Iraq war. I just give credit when it is due.

by Nomad (Bjinse) on Thu Jul 14th, 2005 at 04:00:58 AM EST

Thanks for recommendation (none / 0)

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and for fine additional link.

I had seen a documentary about the Buffalo, NY Islamist cell. A similar model of normal Muslim young men, and a very low threshold to become influenced by a fundamentalist teacher. It's a matter of months rather than years to be converted to radicalism, often through contacts while in detention!

Same goes in the US for new born christians and Black Panther organizations.

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by Oui (Oui) on Thu Jul 14th, 2005 at 05:08:56 AM EST
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why Eindoven? (none / 0)

Is it because of the University there?

I do remember the retaliation there after the Van Gogh murder.

by fauxreal on Thu Jul 14th, 2005 at 11:42:52 PM EST

Most Likely Because Saudi Money (none / 1)

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Saudi funds and fundamental influence has been flowing into Eindhoven's Al-Furqaan Mosque. I understand a leading Imam has his residence permit revoked and ordered to leave the country.

It's also from Eindhoven two youths were killed near the Kashmir border, perhaps on their way to receive a terrorist training. The Netherlands has three major Technical Universities - Twente, Eindhoven and Delft. There are IMO no links in any of the cities with the technical universities, to any suspected terror group.

Incidentally, even the Al Qaeda militants suspected to be behind the 9/11 violence had attended sermons in the Al-Furquan mosque in Eindhoven. The training sessions are conducted by the extremist Al-Waqf al-Islami Foundation believed to be funded by wealthy Saudis.

Since the '80s, the Al-Waqf sermons have drilled extremist messages into the heads of thousands of Muslim youth from across Europe. The sermons are believed to have inspired the six Al-Qaeda operatives to plot the 9/11 terrorist attack on the World Trade Center.

As I mentioned before, the boys are very young when they radicalize, two brothers from the Hofstad group arrested after the The Hague siege had an American father who was separated from his Morrocan wife.

Timeline Dutch Terrorism

Universal Islamic Sites

PS The retaliation was in a small town Uden in the province of Brabant, no connection to Eindhoven mosque. Uden is the center of the SP - Socialist Party and positioned themselves against the EU Charter vote recently.

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by Oui (Oui) on Fri Jul 15th, 2005 at 01:23:29 AM EST
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Iraq War Blowback ¶ Islam Terror in Europe ¶ Mohammed Bouyeri - Updated | 5 comments (5 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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