German Elections Thread II - Cliffhanger! | 121 comments (121 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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Saturday,

I am not sure if you are still about, but according to the Spiegel Schroeder insists that it is parties and not Bundestagsfraktionen that lead the coalition talks:
"Kanzler Gerhard Schröder beharrte darauf, dass Parteien die Koalitionsverhandlungen führen, CDU und CSU also getrennt betrachtet werden müssten."

sooooo

by PeWi on Sun Sep 18th, 2005 at 07:09:13 PM EST

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went to bed at about 1 a.m.

but before I went to sleep, I also heard the "CDU/CSU is not a party"-torpedoe explode. That will be the tune of today and tomorrow.

Damn. How am I supposed to get some work done when I look at news sites every 15 minutes???

by Saturday (geckes(at)gmx.net) on Mon Sep 19th, 2005 at 03:30:51 AM EST
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Yeah, same here (in Britain)

Well, it would only be fair, Stoiber always sits next to Merkel, so they have to be treated as two parties. They made a contract with each other not to compeat in each others territory, but I know they used to try and also the CSU got mightly burned, when they tried to establish the DSU after the Wende. One of my professors was a founding member of the DSU, it was very interesting...

So Parties or Factions? Big question.

But I don't think, it has sunk through to everybody yet, it might still be just a theoretical one.

by PeWi on Mon Sep 19th, 2005 at 03:42:25 AM EST
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At the moment, the SPD contesting the CDU/CSU's status looks more like a theoretical experiment designed to put pressure on Merkel. But maybe the Bundesverfassungsgericht will have to decide again (for the uptenth time this year... This election is really turning into a law class).

But still, despite the DSU-story, Schröder can't get around the fact that CDU and CSU are not competing.

However, the two-parties-argument is nothing but a formal legitimation for Schröder to do what he will do anyway: Trying to build a coalition.

by Saturday (geckes(at)gmx.net) on Mon Sep 19th, 2005 at 05:45:56 AM EST
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If the CDU and the CSU are considered two parties, then the CSU wouldn't be a nationwide party and I wonder what this means. There is no CDU in Bavaria, so I guess the CSU is the limited edition of the CDU for Bavarians only. CSU = CDU for (Dummies) Bavarians.

If the CSU is not represented in all the Bundeslaender, what kind of legal consequences does that have?

Completely confused. What a mess all that.

by mimi on Mon Sep 19th, 2005 at 08:18:55 AM EST
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