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It was considered scarier to travel into the GDR, which we did on one or two occasions every year. That was scary.

This reminds me of the two visits my family made to East Germany when we lived in West Germany (it was in the last two years before the fall of the wall). What was quite apparent was that East Germany is the only place in the world where West Germans respected speed limits, what respected, drove 10 km/h under! Including the ridiculous 30-km/h-speed-reductions on highways created just to catch anyone who breaks the rules.

Of course, coming from  another communist dictature, we didn't feel scared - yet, we noticed that this is a stricter dictature in many minute ways, not just due to the hyper-strict border controls. For example, when beside the Wartburg above Eisenach, we ate at a restaurant at midday, the waiter looked at us with  hostility, murmured something about a stolen midday break (in a restaurant!), then served a steak like a shoe tread...

Which in a tragic parallelism opens up the question, where would have a successful assassination left Germany in 1944?

Great point.

Juan Cole... pointed out... AQ, lacks the intellectuals and their manpower.

I think I'll disagree with Cole on this. Both the London bombers and terrorists in Iraq show that unlike the Afghanistan War generation, the new breed contains quite some educated people. From which I draw the conclusion that a new attack within the USA is only a question of time.

What is the difference between right wing and left wing terrorism.

I think the focus on targets in positions with authority by left-wing terrorism and the focus on targets from members of a community (ethnic/religious/etc.) by the right-wing version. Of course, both do the other thing too, as left-wing plane hijackers and right-wing union leader, civil rights movement leader assassins prove.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Sep 23rd, 2005 at 12:48:17 PM EST
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I wrote: East Germany is the only place in the world where West Germans respected speed limits, what respected, drove 10 km/h under! Including the ridiculous 30-km/h-speed-reductions on highways created just to catch anyone who breaks the rules.

What I forgot to add that this was so memorable because this was the only instance our model Wartburg crap car overtook Mercedes after BMW after Audi after Mercedes after etc. on a highway... because we didn't drove 10 km/h below speed limit.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Sep 23rd, 2005 at 12:51:45 PM EST
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You see, they would not stop you, even if you speeded, because of your numberplate.

But the rumour was such, that they would stop your times on the motorway. if you drove under a certain time from Marienborn to Berlin, then you must have sped underway, FINE and more hard currency for them. They didn;t always use radar...

by PeWi on Fri Sep 23rd, 2005 at 01:55:43 PM EST
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Huh!...

Yeah, they were pretty much focusing on West Germans. I guess if a CIA agent tavelled in with a Dutch pass, he would have had no trouble...

(On the other hand, it wasn't the number plate - I called my mother, she said we had to have a West German number plate after six months, and these visits were later on. Probably the car type and our passes made my parents feel less worried.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Sep 23rd, 2005 at 02:10:52 PM EST
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I could tell you stories...

But, the truly scary thing is, that they were justified. My parents always told us to be as quite as possible around the border, especially not singing the very popular (in our household), Dubschek, Dubschek, Dubschek, MaoTseTung, King-Kong, MaoTseTung, King-Kong, Idi Amin, Honecker, Honecker, raus, <sound of a smacked close door, or a muffled gun shot> -- then start all over again.

I read a book a couple of months back by an Australian Journalist, who interviewed Ex-Stasi officers. One of their favourite jobs was to pretend to be a West German wanting to travel into East Germany, wait in line with them and listen into their conversations in the other cars with directional microphones.

My father was strip searched once, because he still had a 10pfenning east stamp in his wallet. They drove him off to the police station for his attempt to devalue the GDR and his blindingly obvious endeavour of smuggling valuta.

I am SO glad, that the GDR is no more.

by PeWi on Fri Sep 23rd, 2005 at 01:48:47 PM EST
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Re Juan Cole, there are of course two caveats: He said this around the time of the Bali-bombing and he explicitely referred to the US. His point probably being as well, don't bomb the shepherds in Afghanistan, your problem will be homegrown next time.
by PeWi on Fri Sep 23rd, 2005 at 01:59:10 PM EST
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