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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 Subject: From Edward Lucas--personal view from Moscow I was quite wrong to describe the Russian advertising market as "one of the most lucrative businesses in the country". Gas, oil, diamonds are lucrative, but the total TV advertising market is only about $250m now--it was $500m in 1997-- reckons Gareth Brown, one of the readers of this list and an advertising man himself. It is all the more pleasurable to point out my mistake and get a gratuitously favourable reference to you-know-where into the bargain. Gareth writes: "$250m is roughly the size of the combined Baltic states' TV markets, half the size of Hungary, one quarter the size of Poland, one hundredth the size of Germany or the UK, or one thousandth the size of the USA." So there. Fair point--what I really meant was, perhaps, that the Russian media world is, if not lucrative compared to natural resources, at least a notorious source of easy money, determined by kick-backs and intimidation rather than talent. The notorious companies that sell the advertising funnel the revenues anywhere but into the broadcasting infrastructure, as the Ostankino fire shows. Someone else took me to task for saying that it was "odd" that the Russians are more forgiving towards Putin over the Kursk fiasco than the West has been. Surely the Russians are the people best equipped to judge their leaders. We may think that he is an incompetent, sinister, mediocre, compulsive liar, but if they like him--hey, that's democracy. What I meant to say was that Putin's behaviour, viewed from the West, reported by Western journalists and judged by Western standards, looks very bad. Seen from Russia, reported by RTR and with Russian expectations, or lack of them, about how a leader should behave during a national tragedy, it looks a lot less bad. And that is odd. The point is, I think that Russians are very tolerant, by our standards too tolerant, of their leaders' remoteness, greed, arrogance, and general horribleness. Arguably, that's their business. But then we shouldn't have illusions that they, their values, habits etc are basically like ``us''--meaning western countries with centuries of democracy--which is a principal principle of Hurrah-ishm. That prompted another response from the same chap, suggesting that "I think the difference between us is that I like the Russians; I think they are at least as like us as Hitler's Germans were; and I don't believe that any people are condemned by their history always to repeat the same mistakes. Fundamental things have already changed in Russia, and given two or three generations and a good deal of luck, they ought to work their way through to what we would regard as a more reasonable economic and political system." No disrespect, but that sort of reply is classic Hurrah-ism, lightly disguised as realism. I don't think that even Pipes and Brzezinski would argue against the idea that within two or three generations, and with a lot of luck, Russia can become a well-functioning happy country. My problem with this is that this happy prospect is, even by the boosterists' own admission a) distant and b) unlikely, (it is a bad idea in almost any walk of life to base plans on a large dose of good luck having a benign effect, many years ahead). And what really puts acid in my pen when I write about Russia is that the westerners are so unwilling to look at what is likely to happen in the short and medium term. Authoritarianism, collapse, upheaval, stagnation, Africanisation--all these are just as much worth discussing, arguably more so--than the pollyannaish view that "it'll be all right in the end". We have a frightful tendency in the west to compress timescales. As soon as something is agreed to be possible, we start expecting that it will happen tomorrow (the fact that this practically now does happen in software and the internet probably increases the misperception as far as the real world is concerned). And secondly we tend to hype good news: a few western hotels open in Moscow, and the whole tourism sector is--in principle--sorted out. Recruits to western companies are fantastically bright, able, impressive people--so Russia is a limitlessly deep pool of human talent. I don't think personal likes or dislikes should come in to it. I'm not actually sure what it means to "like Russians", or to "dislike Russians"--in almost any country there will be likeable and repellent features and people, but they shouldn't affect our analysis of politics and economics. I also get shirty when people start ascribing my views to my supposed "russophobia". It is possible to be a russophobe (whether that means fear, hatred, jealousy, or just dislike of drunken sobornost) and still think that the country is going to become rich and powerful. And one can be a russophile (meaning lots of Russian friends, loving the culture, even the food) and still believe that it cannot exist much longer as an advanced industrial country. It all goes to the heart of the Western misunderstanding about Russia--the tendency to say that it is all so mysterious and nasty that the best thing is to pretend that it is going to be all right, and the Russians know best what to do with their own country. Actually, Putin's sinister, mediocre nature, which is worrying enough, is compounded by the fact that most Russians seems to like him, because it means that there are few limits to his power. Look at Belarus. Lukashenko seems like a thuggish clown to us, but because Belarus doesn't really matter, we don't feel any compulsion to sanitise him or it (the Germans, who are the softest touch in Europe on Belarus, are a bit different). Imagine if Putin was the president of Belarus--we would say tht this was just further proof of the country's hopelessness. But because Russia has oil (and therefore a temporary prosperity), plus nukes, and is big, we can't take the stance that we would about about a smaller country (contain the damage, minimise the risk, encourage the next generation) I am tempted to recast that well-worn line of Churchills on the lines of Russia is a monstrosity wrapped in self-deception and surrounded by wishful thinking. I can already hear someone bleating that Putin is actually not that bad, and look at all the laws that are going through the Duma etc . Now that I am properly back from holiday, I feel a bit more able to take the temperature. The cake is being resliced between out-of-favour oligarchs and the inner circle. I am pretty sure that the attacks on Sibneft are for show, which shows that Abramovich is still "in". Berezovsky is hard to read (even when he is dead, somebody will be saying that this is just a clever manoeuvre). But the open letter to Putin looks to me like an obvious public breach. Putin is turning up the heat on the regions again, but more selectively. They are investigating Moscow's murky property dealings, but, for the moment, leaving Tatarstan alone. Putin's problem is that he simply doesn't have the people to deal with the rgions properly. He can try making dramatic examples, but cleaning up regional government systematically, even if he wanted to do it, is all but impossible at the moment. I am pretty sure that he will get bogged down. There are some stabs at pepping up public admnistration--or at least being seen to do so. Sacking the bosses of the Odintsovo customs house looked quite dramatic. But I doubt that this is going to work. I think the chinovniki have already rumbled Putin, and know that it is going to be basically business as usual. Putin's key shortcoming over the last few months, I think, has been his failure to get the people on his side. For all his loathsome past, personal shortcomings, and muddled ideas, it is conceivable that he really means some of the things he said in his state-of-thenation speech to parliament (a remarkable document, by the way, and well worth reading at http://en.rian.ru/rian/poslanie.cfm). But I think he simply doesn't have a clue how to make it happen. It's the old story of top-down reform, and contempt and for and ignorance about the Narod. The only way in which a country can become properly administered is when the state and society are linked by lots of different feedback channels--everything from the media which reports abuses, elected officials who want to win popularity by sorting them out, ombudsmen and public auditors who control the state for a living, judges and public prosecutors who tackle criminal abuses of state power, pressure groups and other bits of civil society that focus public opinion, channel grievances and so forth. Almost all of this is missing or broken in Russia. Of course with the best will in the world it won't be created over night, but Putin is not even really trying. On that happy note, have a nice weekend. Edward
I was quite wrong to describe the Russian advertising market as "one of the most lucrative businesses in the country". Gas, oil, diamonds are lucrative, but the total TV advertising market is only about $250m now--it was $500m in 1997-- reckons Gareth Brown, one of the readers of this list and an advertising man himself.
It is all the more pleasurable to point out my mistake and get a gratuitously favourable reference to you-know-where into the bargain. Gareth writes: "$250m is roughly the size of the combined Baltic states' TV markets, half the size of Hungary, one quarter the size of Poland, one hundredth the size of Germany or the UK, or one thousandth the size of the USA." So there.
Fair point--what I really meant was, perhaps, that the Russian media world is, if not lucrative compared to natural resources, at least a notorious source of easy money, determined by kick-backs and intimidation rather than talent. The notorious companies that sell the advertising funnel the revenues anywhere but into the broadcasting infrastructure, as the Ostankino fire shows.
Someone else took me to task for saying that it was "odd" that the Russians are more forgiving towards Putin over the Kursk fiasco than the West has been. Surely the Russians are the people best equipped to judge their leaders. We may think that he is an incompetent, sinister, mediocre, compulsive liar, but if they like him--hey, that's democracy. What I meant to say was that Putin's behaviour, viewed from the West, reported by Western journalists and judged by Western standards, looks very bad. Seen from Russia, reported by RTR and with Russian expectations, or lack of them, about how a leader should behave during a national tragedy, it looks a lot less bad. And that is odd.
The point is, I think that Russians are very tolerant, by our standards too tolerant, of their leaders' remoteness, greed, arrogance, and general horribleness. Arguably, that's their business. But then we shouldn't have illusions that they, their values, habits etc are basically like ``us''--meaning western countries with centuries of democracy--which is a principal principle of Hurrah-ishm.
That prompted another response from the same chap, suggesting that "I think the difference between us is that I like the Russians; I think they are at least as like us as Hitler's Germans were; and I don't believe that any people are condemned by their history always to repeat the same mistakes. Fundamental things have already changed in Russia, and given two or three generations and a good deal of luck, they ought to work their way through to what we would regard as a more reasonable economic and political system."
No disrespect, but that sort of reply is classic Hurrah-ism, lightly disguised as realism.
I don't think that even Pipes and Brzezinski would argue against the idea that within two or three generations, and with a lot of luck, Russia can become a well-functioning happy country. My problem with this is that this happy prospect is, even by the boosterists' own admission a) distant and b) unlikely, (it is a bad idea in almost any walk of life to base plans on a large dose of good luck having a benign effect, many years ahead). And what really puts acid in my pen when I write about Russia is that the westerners are so unwilling to look at what is likely to happen in the short and medium term. Authoritarianism, collapse, upheaval, stagnation, Africanisation--all these are just as much worth discussing, arguably more so--than the pollyannaish view that "it'll be all right in the end".
We have a frightful tendency in the west to compress timescales. As soon as something is agreed to be possible, we start expecting that it will happen tomorrow (the fact that this practically now does happen in software and the internet probably increases the misperception as far as the real world is concerned). And secondly we tend to hype good news: a few western hotels open in Moscow, and the whole tourism sector is--in principle--sorted out. Recruits to western companies are fantastically bright, able, impressive people--so Russia is a limitlessly deep pool of human talent.
I don't think personal likes or dislikes should come in to it. I'm not actually sure what it means to "like Russians", or to "dislike Russians"--in almost any country there will be likeable and repellent features and people, but they shouldn't affect our analysis of politics and economics. I also get shirty when people start ascribing my views to my supposed "russophobia". It is possible to be a russophobe (whether that means fear, hatred, jealousy, or just dislike of drunken sobornost) and still think that the country is going to become rich and powerful. And one can be a russophile (meaning lots of Russian friends, loving the culture, even the food) and still believe that it cannot exist much longer as an advanced industrial country.
It all goes to the heart of the Western misunderstanding about Russia--the tendency to say that it is all so mysterious and nasty that the best thing is to pretend that it is going to be all right, and the Russians know best what to do with their own country. Actually, Putin's sinister, mediocre nature, which is worrying enough, is compounded by the fact that most Russians seems to like him, because it means that there are few limits to his power. Look at Belarus. Lukashenko seems like a thuggish clown to us, but because Belarus doesn't really matter, we don't feel any compulsion to sanitise him or it (the Germans, who are the softest touch in Europe on Belarus, are a bit different). Imagine if Putin was the president of Belarus--we would say tht this was just further proof of the country's hopelessness. But because Russia has oil (and therefore a temporary prosperity), plus nukes, and is big, we can't take the stance that we would about about a smaller country (contain the damage, minimise the risk, encourage the next generation)
I am tempted to recast that well-worn line of Churchills on the lines of Russia is a monstrosity wrapped in self-deception and surrounded by wishful thinking.
I can already hear someone bleating that Putin is actually not that bad, and look at all the laws that are going through the Duma etc . Now that I am properly back from holiday, I feel a bit more able to take the temperature.
On that happy note, have a nice weekend. Edward
Really?
Agree with the mysterious (and DoDo thought the BBC was better than that...) and nasty part. But I think we stopped pretending it was going to be alright almost decade ago. And that last part! Ack! The Western "misunderstanding" that the Russians know best what to do with their country? I find that to be niether the trend, nor a "misunderstanding" ... Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
Jerome seems to think highly of this moron.
Разве так возможно прочитав эту дрянь наверху?
Vosmajnio prachitat => to be able to read I think So I guess this means "how can anyone read such a thing?" or something along those lines, or maybe "how did you manage to read through that stuff"
How far off am I?
Do I get a candy bar? :))
Peut etre les autres peuvent offrir une meillure traduction...
My French is obviously not the greatest either.
But I suspect he values the piece for its entertainment value. And respects a fellow rabble-rouser... And I don't know if I'd call it trash. Maybe silly, opinionated, unproductive. But apparently it was meant to be... Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
Edward Lucas: The sick party line on Eastern Europe Twice at parties in the last week I've found myself gasping for breath. Each time I was chatting to pillars of the right-wing British establishment, solid Cold Warriors with whom I used to agree about the big questions of Europe's future - America in, Germans down, Russia out - and so forth.
Twice at parties in the last week I've found myself gasping for breath. Each time I was chatting to pillars of the right-wing British establishment, solid Cold Warriors with whom I used to agree about the big questions of Europe's future - America in, Germans down, Russia out - and so forth.
This comment regarding Lucas's Economist 2001 Russia survey is spot on:
New Russia survey dishes out an old, tired tale ... The reaction to the report in the audience was, predictably, negative, and probably best summarized by panelist and economist Vladimir Mau, who said that while he admired Lucas' writing immensely, he could not reconcile the country being surveyed with the one he lives in. ... In fact, when I finished reading the survey the only conclusion I could draw is that Russia today was not the survey's focus. The real story in its midst was Lucas himself: his deep-seated anxiety, cynicism, frustration and tiredness with the country.
... The reaction to the report in the audience was, predictably, negative, and probably best summarized by panelist and economist Vladimir Mau, who said that while he admired Lucas' writing immensely, he could not reconcile the country being surveyed with the one he lives in.
... In fact, when I finished reading the survey the only conclusion I could draw is that Russia today was not the survey's focus. The real story in its midst was Lucas himself: his deep-seated anxiety, cynicism, frustration and tiredness with the country.
But Euroscepticism is corroding those comforting and commendable certainties. One of my pals, a newspaper editor, interrupted me as I praised the flat-taxes and other reforms sweeping across Europe from the new member states. "Oh, I'm not interested in that now. I'm for a pull-out." In vain I tried to explain that the Central Europeans and Balts would regard his idea of a new EFTA - backed by NATO - as dotty and unworkable. The constitution had failed, he insisted, so the EU was dead. Two days later it was one of Britain's leading right-wing polemicists, a man who as speechwriter for Margaret Thatcher honed some of the choicest phrases of the Cold War. I was trying to interest him in the problems of Europe's eastern fringes, so brilliantly outlined by my predecessor, Robert Cottrell, in his recent survey in The Economist. He wasn't interested. The EU would collapse, and Britain should pull out as soon as possible. But what, I stuttered, would you do about Moldova, or Belarus? "Those countries," he replied loftily, "will have to look after themselves." I could hardly believe my ears. A man who, only 20 years previously, had championed the captive nations' right to be free of Soviet rule was now consigning the most vulnerable victims of Communism to the scrap heap of history. There is something very odd going on here. Britain and British ideas of a wide, Atlanticist Europe have never been so popular in Eastern Europe. Memories of betrayals, real or imagined, of Munich, of the Warsaw Uprising, at Yalta, of the Cossacks, of Hungarians in 1956 and Czechoslovaks in 1968, are fading into history. Instead, there is enthusiastic support for British ideas about EU reform, for Tony Blair's ideas about deregulation, dynamism, flexibility and so on. Countries wanting to join the EU see the British presidency as their big chance.
Two days later it was one of Britain's leading right-wing polemicists, a man who as speechwriter for Margaret Thatcher honed some of the choicest phrases of the Cold War. I was trying to interest him in the problems of Europe's eastern fringes, so brilliantly outlined by my predecessor, Robert Cottrell, in his recent survey in The Economist.
He wasn't interested. The EU would collapse, and Britain should pull out as soon as possible. But what, I stuttered, would you do about Moldova, or Belarus? "Those countries," he replied loftily, "will have to look after themselves." I could hardly believe my ears. A man who, only 20 years previously, had championed the captive nations' right to be free of Soviet rule was now consigning the most vulnerable victims of Communism to the scrap heap of history.
There is something very odd going on here. Britain and British ideas of a wide, Atlanticist Europe have never been so popular in Eastern Europe. Memories of betrayals, real or imagined, of Munich, of the Warsaw Uprising, at Yalta, of the Cossacks, of Hungarians in 1956 and Czechoslovaks in 1968, are fading into history. Instead, there is enthusiastic support for British ideas about EU reform, for Tony Blair's ideas about deregulation, dynamism, flexibility and so on. Countries wanting to join the EU see the British presidency as their big chance.
Gosh.
This guy is a fruitcake and an astute observer at the same time.
He is right on the non-collapse of the EU, and that Atlanticist Europe has not been so popular in Central-Eastern Europe (BTW note how he calles the latter Eastern Europe and excludes Russia from Europe). But the rest... Tory elitism and Atlanticist self-blinding and a subconscious imperial arrogance at the same time. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
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