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Bush press conference, right now, which I am watching against my better judgment.

He was just asked about these numbers.  He said the "methodology has been pretty well discredited" and the numbers are "not credible" and "guessed at."

Not true.  Moving on.

He also said, and this made me shout out loud, something like this:  "These are a people who want so badly to be free... that these are levels of violence that they are willing to tolerate."

Excuse me?  Willing to tolerate?  Have you asked them?  Are you high?!

Honestly, he said it.  I could not make this up if I tried.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Wed Oct 11th, 2006 at 11:34:39 AM EST
Is anyone buying it?

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 11th, 2006 at 11:39:48 AM EST
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We'll see in a month or so.

I wish the press could be even more aggressive about its questioning.

Dismissing The Lancet as 'not credible' says a lot in itself.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Oct 11th, 2006 at 12:26:56 PM EST
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No one considered the opinion of Iraqis, including people that were against the war. Call it arrogance, ego, narrow-mindedness.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Wed Oct 11th, 2006 at 06:53:53 PM EST
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Here's the full transcript:

QUESTION: Thank you, Mr. President.

Back on Iraq, a group of American and Iraqi health officials today released a report saying that 655,000 Iraqis have died since the Iraq war.

That figure is 20 times the figure that you cited in December at 30,000. Do you care to amend or update your figure? And do you consider this a credible report?

BUSH: No, I don't consider it a credible report. Neither does General Casey and neither do Iraqi officials.

I do -- I do know that a lot of innocent people have died, and that troubles me. And it grieves me. And I applaud the Iraqis for their courage in the face of violence.

I am, you know, amazed that this is a society which so wants to be free that they're willing to -- you know, that there's a level of violence that they tolerate.

And it's now time for the Iraqi government to work hard to bring security in neighborhoods so people can feel -- can feel, you know, at peace.

No question it's violent. But this report is one -- they put it out before. It was pretty well -- the methodology is pretty well discredited.

But I, you know, talk to people like General Casey. And, of course, the Iraqi government put out a statement talking about the report.

QUESTION: So the figure's 30,000, Mr. President? Do you stand by your figure, 30,000?

BUSH: I, you know, I stand by the figure a lot of innocent people have lost their life. 600,000 or whatever they guessed at is just, it's not credible. Thank you.

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake
by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Wed Oct 11th, 2006 at 07:32:30 PM EST
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The video is here.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Wed Oct 11th, 2006 at 08:23:18 PM EST
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After reading that nonsense - another vote here for AAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHH.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Oct 11th, 2006 at 08:34:43 PM EST
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Thank you.
It (can't be a "he" or a "she") is slightly less unbearable in text form.
by Number 6 on Thu Oct 12th, 2006 at 08:58:50 AM EST
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