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kudos to nanne and gaianne for their pointing to the real issue: scaling back demand, thoroughly and fast.

I thought the real issue in this case is the claim that, even if we stopped all CO2 emissions today, the current elevated levels and the greenhouse effect would continue unabated for decades.

But I have no interest in living through "Dr. Strangelove: how I learned to stop worrying about CO2 love Acid Rain."

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 14th, 2006 at 12:24:59 PM EST
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thanks for relinking to deanander's april diary, and the great comments appended to it, migeru.

may we all strive for such a coherent overview as she consistently brings to our table.

as for the claim of current greenhouse effects continuing unabated, they are probably right, yet i believe there is much more that we don't know, than that we do, so the old uncertainty principle kicks in and, rightly or wrongly, time alone will tell, i manage to get a few more hours of good sleep!

denial is cheap, yup, but doom can warp our minds too.

although after a flagellation session of global worry, if kept up long enough can lead to a desperate wish to have as much fun as poss before we all go down in a mess of charred feathers...

which is why i spend more time here and less time making art than i used to.

as sven said here recently, becoming more intelligent is not a guarantee of happiness,

but when there is an opportunity to question and learn in such an amusingly snarklaced atmosphere, my little intellect is constantly stroked and tickled into growth, and that's a Good Thing, as it feels very understimulated still, though thanks to dial up and the internet a lot of progress has been made.

and most of all by finding such a bright group of people as those gathered here at et.

smart ain't the word, informed and caring too.

special thanks to you migeru for all you do to keep the top whizzing, i know i've made some thoughtless comments here that have justly ticked you off, and i apologise.

you are one of the funniest posters here, and i can't imagine this place without you.

it may well be true that the gods wish to destroy me, but i want to be just mad enough to laugh while they're doing it!

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Oct 15th, 2006 at 01:37:26 AM EST
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A situation with less acid rain than we have today would be Strangelovian? I wouldn't mind that aspect, but complacency about rising CO2 looks like a major problem.

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by technopolitical on Sun Oct 15th, 2006 at 02:22:09 AM EST
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Rising CO2 plus rising SO2 cannot be good for ocean acidification.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Oct 16th, 2006 at 04:11:13 AM EST
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Rising SO2? Given general trends, why would there be an increase?
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There's an acidification concern here, not because of a delay in ongoing reductions of SO2, but because of reduced motivations to reduce CO2.

And that poses a problem, because it is hard to argue to people that they shouldn't do X because it will make Y less painful, and we want the pain caused by Y to make them do Z.

Here, X = SO2 cooling, Y = CO2 increase, Z = CO2 emission reduction.

Words and ideas I offer here may be used freely and without attribution.

by technopolitical on Mon Oct 16th, 2006 at 04:16:59 PM EST
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