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Great diary!! Thanks for that - I had only an inkling about Austrian politics before. It was an eye-opener that Austrian politics, like the Netherlands, work with "great coallitions".

Interesting that both populist, hard right movements and green parties are also on the march in the Netherlands.

by Nomad (Bjinse) on Wed Nov 1st, 2006 at 04:38:58 AM EST
It was an eye-opener that Austrian politics, like the Netherlands, work with "great coallitions".

Actually, you could just as well say that that's how they didn't work. The Austrian Grand Coalitions worked by the two big parties dividing up every post among themselves, and mutually turning a blind eye to the others' shady dealings. This was the system of "Proporz". Haider's and the FPÖ's rise (and fall) can in no small part be ascribed to the mistaken view that he would clean up this corrupt system.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Nov 1st, 2006 at 05:37:57 AM EST
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there's another eye-opener. Didn't the Austrians decide via what the Dutch call a "Regeerakkoord" - a government contract on policy for the coming period with the goals and priorities outlined and agreed upon by all parties within the coalition?
by Nomad (Bjinse) on Wed Nov 1st, 2006 at 07:07:55 AM EST
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Yes they did, but I am speaking of a completely different thing. When I said positions perhabs you thought of ministerial positions, but I meant stuff like oversight authority managers, media company managers, state company managers, judges etc.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Nov 1st, 2006 at 07:28:32 AM EST
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Yes, I did think of minsterial positions, and the like. Judges? Media oversight managers? Are these postions not decided independent of the government?? This sounds somewhat... Spanish.
by Nomad (Bjinse) on Wed Nov 1st, 2006 at 09:34:52 AM EST
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If you have a Grand Coalition so big the opposition doesn't even have a blocking minority, there is no "independent of the government" anymore. That's Proporz to you.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Nov 1st, 2006 at 03:11:18 PM EST
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I've been reading the Wikipedia entry, too. Europe is crazy sometimes. Chalk one point to the benefits of the European Union, it seems...
by Nomad (Bjinse) on Wed Nov 1st, 2006 at 08:38:04 PM EST
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