The Indonesian Mud Flood | 16 comments (16 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: The Indonesian Mud Flood (4.00 / 4)

Unbelievable.

Every day I am more convinced that we desperately need a supranational legislative body that can effectively set and enforce laws. There is the UN, but it is too bound by the interests of a few powerful countries. The world is getting too small to allow these types of environmental disasters to be handled by the very people responsible for letting them happen. God, it is so frustrating...

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Fri Oct 6th, 2006 at 11:53:50 AM EST

Re: The Indonesian Mud Flood (none / 0)

Economics is always ahead of politics, and the global economy will create a global polity. There is already a global elite.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 6th, 2006 at 11:56:29 AM EST
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Re: The Indonesian Mud Flood (none / 0)

Yup. Guaranteed. Now, what form global government will take is the interesting issue.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 6th, 2006 at 12:08:38 PM EST
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Re: The Indonesian Mud Flood (4.00 / 2)

Ugly, initially, if history is any guide. The question is how many rounds of world war there will be, and whether a global revolution will be needed, before we can have a global democracy.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 6th, 2006 at 12:26:23 PM EST
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Re: The Indonesian Mud Flood (4.00 / 3)

I am not sure forming a global government would solve much. The problem is enforcement. How much commitment can individual countries and companies provide? How the global village will agree on that? I am afraid that practical enforcement will look like an outright war. At least, the meaningful enforcement and in the initial stage.

One organization which does some enforcing protection of the environment is Sea Shepherd. But I hardly know other examples.

by das monde on Fri Oct 6th, 2006 at 11:55:00 PM EST
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enforcement is a key component of a functional government, of course.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 7th, 2006 at 05:14:33 AM EST
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Re: The Indonesian Mud Flood (4.00 / 3)

It is frustrating, particularly as the only really unique facet of this case is the chronic mud-vomiting. Every other aspect - land-rape, corruption, gaming of bankruptcy laws - has played out many different times and places.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Oct 6th, 2006 at 01:44:04 PM EST
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