i think our greater problem as europeans, and i'm very glad to see it addressed so assiduously here at ET, is the backdoor agreements with america that our secret police forces in many (all?) euro- countries have made.

this feeds into the tinfoil world domination fears we share in our collective unconscious, i believe.

in this respect, england, germany and italy have erred greatly, and the WOT is just not convincing enough to justify it, i think most agree, at least here.

renditions, anyone?

german forces in iraq prewar?

england's shady lurches towards tossing habeus corpus also?

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty