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by p------- on Thu Nov 16th, 2006 at 04:05:06 PM EST
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A distinction without a difference.

Well, actually, a very big difference. Primaries are "free" for voters, but they are hardly free for the contestants. In addition to which, in the US, actually getting the central party blessing requires a combination of money-generating prowess and ass-kissing, toe the corporate line behavior, demonstrated over a significant period of time. US federal candidates, if they want to stand a chance, bascially have to take a catamite aptitude test, pass it, then hope no one else passed it better.

What's more, this is just the PS internal selection. Nothing stops a candidate from the PS to present himself in the presidential even if they lose here, there's been especially worries about Fabius in this regard. And running as an independent (ie non PS, UMP or a la limite the PCF, the Greens or the UDF) of modest means in France does not mean you are consigned to the dustbin of electoral hopes. Speaking for the left, in the first round in '02, the PS standard bearer got 16% of the vote, PCF and Greens another 7 or 8, and left splinters (Laguiller, Chevenement, et c) got actually like 20%. And that vote, the "real" left primary, was indeed free.

Additionally, you don't have to be a millionaire to get into the Senate in France, though it doesn't necessarily hurt. In the US, being a regular guy, as opposed to wealthy, is the exception, not the rule at nearly all levels of Federal politics.

Unsurprisingly no one has represented the poor in the US since roughly 1968.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Thu Nov 16th, 2006 at 05:31:49 PM EST
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But you have to tell the government your political affiliation.

Now seriously, can you explain the difference between

  • registered Democrat voter
  • Democrat donor
  • Democrat activist/volunteer
  • Democratic Party "member" (card-carrying?)
  • What is the DLC?

Is there anything to prevent someone who is not a registered democrat from running in the Democratic party primary? The way I see it, the Democratic Party primary is about winning the party's endorsement. You can see how much that was worth to Lieberman, who still went on to win as an independent and caucus with the Dems retaining his seniority.

If you want the Socialist [or any other] Party candidate to represent you, you join the party [which may or may not include paying dues]. If none of the parties' candidates represents you, you can form your own party.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 04:01:16 AM EST
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But you have to tell the government your political affiliation.

That bothers me, too. Also, it semi-institutionalises the two-party system.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 11:54:32 AM EST
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