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There is "double majority voting" already. According to the Treaty of Nice, qualified majority is defined by article 205 of the EC treaty, which requires not only a qualified majority of weighted votes, but a qualified majority of states.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Dec 12th, 2006 at 11:30:08 AM EST
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I thought nanne was refering to the current veto on certain policy areas being replaced by the 65%/55% qualified voting.

Maybe I was presuming too much.

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by r------ on Tue Dec 12th, 2006 at 11:37:39 AM EST
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The EU will also need to reform its institutional architecture, so that we will have only double majority voting in the Council (voting by a majority of states representing a majority of the population).
Nanne seems to be asking for 50%/50% double majority...

The fact is, decisions are already taken by (double) qualified majority by default already.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Dec 12th, 2006 at 11:47:35 AM EST
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Not on everything. Tax policy is exempt from this (veto applies) as is criminal justice.

Prodi wanted this changed but, in large part thanks to the UK, he got nowhere.

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Tue Dec 12th, 2006 at 11:52:55 AM EST
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Unfortunately the treaties are now peppered with exceptions which will have to be removed one by one, because the rule is
CONSOLIDATED VERSION OF THE TREATY ESTABLISHING THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITY
Article 205
1. Save as otherwise provided in this Treaty, the Council shall act by a majority of its Members.


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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Dec 12th, 2006 at 12:14:03 PM EST
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A 50/50 (plus 1) or a 55/55 share would be better, yes. The double majority rule is now already in place but it exists in addition to the qualified majority voting according to votes, which only increases the number of veto points (the number of possible blocking minorities). See the wiki article on qualified majority voting.

What I meant by having the council only voting by double majority was getting rid of Qualified Majority Voting and only leaving the double majority rule, not necessarily moving areas which are now under unanimity to majority voting.

I am, however, a supporter of moving immigration to the co-decision procedure as well as limited aspects of tax harmonisation (though I more or less expect that the latter can only be accomplished in a 'core' Europe).

Turkish entry will not increase the number of possible blocking minorities, it will rather decrease it. But we will need to get some treaty changes regardless to keep the EU functioning.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Dec 12th, 2006 at 01:45:25 PM EST
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