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A bit wary about getting into cars: protecting prostitutes in Europe. | 35 comments (35 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
protecting prostitutes (4.00 / 3)
Everyone seems to think that prostitution is inevitable, but prostitution is not a necessity. It is an act of violence by the very source of its demand, or it wouldn´t require money:  Sex is a natural act among adults.

The demand is created by human beings too inadequate to create natural, mutual relationship(s) to satisfy their needs, and/or masturbate, and/or control a sexual need for a period of time.  I have never heard of any death caused by lack of sex in my life.

As to the supply by prostitutes, it comes from extreme necessity, maybe a previous drug addiction and lack of other job possibilities.  I have never heard an adolescent say "I want to become a prostitute".

Instant gratification for consumer mentalities?

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Fri Dec 15th, 2006 at 08:11:01 PM EST
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The demand is created by human beings too inadequate to create natural, mutual relationship(s) to satisfy their needs, and/or masturbate, and/or control a sexual need for a period of time.

Moral frameworks are not useful for creating policy and most certainly not as a way to understand human behavior. That kind of thinking should be isolated to fundies.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Dec 15th, 2006 at 10:48:04 PM EST
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My comment tries to address the conflicting human behaviors, not morals.  Natural, social frameworks that degenerate into violent human behaviors, no matter how overanalyzed.

It takes time to develop human relationships, but in prostitution, money saves time...

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Sat Dec 16th, 2006 at 07:53:50 AM EST
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Re: protecting prostitutes (4.00 / 5)
It's worse, prostitutes "imported" from Eastern Europe (and I guess Africa too) are often tricked or kidnapped girls whose will is broken in industrial fashion with rape, violence, taking away papers and money, and 'demonstrating' that police is corrupt (=there is no one to turn to).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Dec 16th, 2006 at 08:11:40 AM EST
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That is the case in Spain and it seems every couple of months we hear of a ring broken up that 1) is from Eastern Europe, but always has a Spaniard involved, 2) it is criminally violent, 3) operates in 2 or more cities.

This proves (there is corruption?) the security breach at the Northern Spanish border, which is minor news because the rafts-of-death coming from Africa are so shocking.

There was a proposed legalization of prostitution in Catalunya, by a female pol. no less, that I don´t know if it passed.

It is hard to believe that around 1968 I heard the term "white trade" for the first time and Spain was then a source of women for... Arab countries?  (Oil-rich Arabs were buying out the south coast at the time.)

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Sun Dec 17th, 2006 at 08:23:51 AM EST
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In the sixties to eighties, blonde female visitors to Turkey were warned by the tourist office to watch out for themselves. Apparently with good reason. I know someone who went there in a group a few decades ago, and one blonde female member of the group disappeared in Istambul.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Dec 17th, 2006 at 09:15:46 AM EST
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The demand is created by human beings too inadequate to create natural, mutual relationship(s) to satisfy their needs, and/or masturbate, and/or control a sexual need for a period of time.

I'm unconvinced that sex is the only dynamic.  Somewhere when researching this I found the claim that the 'typical' client is 35-55 years old and has, or has had, a wife or girlfriend.

As a student, I lived on the edge of the red light district, and my own impression was that the typical kerb-crawler is 35, normal looking and in a company car.

I don't think prostitutes are the only option for sex for these men.  Which means that they must be paying for something else.

by Sassafras on Sat Dec 16th, 2006 at 04:54:21 PM EST
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I agree about the dynamic and I sense "power, control, etc" has a lot to do with it, which makes it violence to me.  When sex becomes a commodity, or a convenience, it is truly de-meaning its value and the parties are not equals.

You are right also about the options and I was implying more-than-one-relationship possibilities, as long as it´s personal and not business.  The consequences are not ideal either, but at least it is social.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Sat Dec 16th, 2006 at 06:22:58 PM EST
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A bit wary about getting into cars: protecting prostitutes in Europe. | 35 comments (35 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
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