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by TGeraghty on Fri Dec 8th, 2006 at 05:17:00 AM EST
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Wow, thanks! I get my very own tagline.

The funny thing is, I do have the suspicion that it is sort of cyclical (in the grand scheme), that economies, like people have times of low energy and confidence, but these tend to turn around if the fundamentals are strong.

In particular, it is now 16 years since the reunification of Germany, it should be (by my guess) 20 years (that's how long a lot of these things seem to take) before Germany reaches the prosperity it would have been in without unification and thus, likely it should be coming out of the doldrums now, or sometime soon.

The sadness of course is that people have tried to ascribe significance to these cycles as criticisms of ways of running economies, without taking the context into account.

(This all runs off my contention that Germany is a core economy in Europe, it has to be going good for the EU figures as a whole to be good.)

Now whether the EU can easily weather the bumps that a declining dollar appears to presage is something I'm less sure about. In fundamental terms it clearly can, but we live in a world floating on liquidity and "investment confidence" which is perhaps much more globalised in nature these days.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Dec 8th, 2006 at 07:33:12 AM EST
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The sadness of course is that people have tried to ascribe significance to these cycles as criticisms of ways of running economies, without taking the context into account.

The late physicist Per Bak argued that it is a problem of historical narratives that people try to ascribe significance to what might just be fortuitous chains of events. Technically, in an open, complex system a state of "self-organised criticality" is attained in which small random causes can have disproportionately large cascading effects. From outside the system, only the statistical properties of these "avalanches" are meaningful, but from within the system every little building block has a significance and so a narrative gets constructed to explain the observed succession of events as a meaningful causative chain. A constant case of post hoc ergo propter hoc, in a way.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 8th, 2006 at 07:41:32 AM EST
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Yes, certainly a large part of it is cyclical. Booms (or busts) never last forever.

As for the reintegration of the East German economy, it may take even longer than 20 years. Reintegrating the South back into the US economy after the Civil War took over a century. I think the scope of the problems in the two cases are comparable.

by TGeraghty on Fri Dec 8th, 2006 at 05:33:29 PM EST
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