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Unfortunately this is a fantasy. I had same fantasy before and naively believed that USA, Australia, New Zealand and Canada are multicultural societies...No bloody way and don't let anyone lie about this to you. They are not ...When ever it is needed (like now) for political reasons politicians through media and propaganda machine very easily can start national and resist hatred. It's always been there (inside people) but it's suppressed for political and economic reasons when necessary. Multiculturalism is fairytale unfortunately. At first I thought it's just us in ex - YU that have those feelings and are easy to manipulate but its world wide phenomenon...To be honest my hair goes up from what I see and feel is coming worldwide. I am sorry to be pessimistic and bitter again. And about economy and brotherhood we Serbs have a say :"Yes we are brothers but our wallets are not sisters (or brothers)"


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 08:31:33 AM EST
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Are Crnagorci Serbs?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 08:35:11 AM EST
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Off course they are. Same nation but kind of different tribe. Same religion and most of the time same interest through history. At the moment their political mafia is talking about Montenegro's independence too. They need referendum to do it. Problem is that more then 1/3 of them live in Serbia and are not interested in independence. This 1/3 Montenegro politicians would like to avoid to let them vote.
Referendum is a tricky thing. Most of the time if they have a referendum on whole territory of the specific country of course majority of the people would vote against independence of some specific part. If you make referendum just in that specific part that want independence majority will of course be for independence. Have in mind loyalty to one's nation (it's named patriotism) and propaganda and manipulation too. There is no way that both sides will agree on separatist tendencies peacefully. One side can be pushed (or bribed, or otherwise made to agree) from outside to allow it but it's rarely the case. That's why borders are all soaked in blood and especially in Europe. But Serbs and Crnogorci (Montenegrins) never did and never will fight each other military...because we are same nation...But we do have our differences...ouh yeah...


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 09:36:40 AM EST
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There is an sizeable group of people who felt yugoslav and are left without a nation, whatever passport they hold now.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 08:38:24 AM EST
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Well yes. Mostly people from Bosnia and other "multicultural" parts and those from "mixed marriages"
I personally am not one of them and I do not mourn for Yugoslavia that much.I always felt more like a "citizen of the world" then Yugoslav or even Serb I grieve for what have we done to each other in the process of "divorce"...We "ruined our house and killed our children"...if you know what I mean.
But I never felt it was a "marriage based on love". It even was not "marriage of interest" for all of us. I wish we have "never marriage" to be honest. But it was not that much our decision anyway...It was always for super powers to determine our destiny on the Balkan...


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Tue Feb 14th, 2006 at 09:55:18 AM EST
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