Muslim Cartoon Controversy: What the Media Isn't Telling You | 78 comments (78 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Muslim Cartoon Controversy: What the Media Isn (none / 1)

Danish PM Rasmussen refused to meet the ambassadors of 11 Muslim countries in October. I think your Saudi theory misses several steps of the escalation.

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by DoDo on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 01:37:55 PM EST

Well (none / 0)

You also coud reason it is evidence for it. So, what's it gonna be? There's no way to tell right now.

by Nomad (Bjinse) on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 01:55:17 PM EST
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I don't understand what you argue for. How could the October protest by ambassadors of 11 countries be proof of the orchestration by a single country from January?

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by DoDo on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 02:41:56 PM EST
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Well what you say is true however it must be taken in context. Rasmussen originally said his government can't and doesn't control the newspapers, therefore there was nothing he can do. I see that he's going to be in a number of Arab TV channels today to try and defuse the crisis.

That the cartoons offended Muslims in September and October is not in dispute. However there have been MANY offensive media publications, including films in the Netherlands, in the past. So why was there no rioting and storming of the Dutch embassies?

In other words, Muslims have had many occasions to be offended by the media in Europe. Why are these 12 cartoons the straw that "broke the camel's back" (not to use an offensive expression)?

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by soj on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 02:05:42 PM EST
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Rasmussen originally said his government can't and doesn't control the newspapers, therefore there was nothing he can do.

He could've said exactly that to the ambassadors. Refusing to meet ambassadors is something very serious in diplomacy.

That the cartoons offended Muslims in September and October is not in dispute.

No, the point was that already in October, things escalated enough that representatives of 11 foreign governments were into the issue, while you claimed that only the Saudi state was into it and that from January.

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by DoDo on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 02:41:06 PM EST
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"Guardian" timeline (none / 0)

Child's tale led to clash of cultures

Death threats

At first, though, the outrage was local. Several thousand Danish Muslims protested. Three of the cartoonists received death threats; security guards were posted outside the newspaper's offices in Copenhagen and Arhus.

Interesting to note that death threats already happened before it became an "international incident". I would classify that as an escalation too.

What should have remained a parochial row was to blow up into an international incident, largely because of the perceived obdurate response of Denmark's centre-right prime minister, Anders Fogh Rasmussen. On October 19 ambassadors from Islamic countries, including Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran, demanded a meeting. They wanted the paper prosecuted. The PM gave them the brush-off, arguing that his government could not interfere with the right to free speech.

We can say that the PM acted stupidly in not meeting them. No argument. But "prosecuting the paper" was a stupid demand too.

by Detlef (Detlef1961_at_yahoo_dot_de) on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 02:44:53 PM EST
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A question to Danish speakers (none / 1)

Can anyone go back into the archives of newspapers at the time of the non-meeting with the ambassadors to see how it was presented then? We don't know exactly what happened then, it may be worth digging up.

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by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 02:54:27 PM EST
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Muslim Cartoon Controversy: What the Media Isn't Telling You | 78 comments (78 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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