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I'm not serious, name, but I just wanted to head-butt my disagreement on just one point: the right of complete free speech also entitles people to "hurt" others, as long as the hurt is emotional hurt and does not endager their lives. It's the other side of free speech: allowing tolerance towards the intolerant, and it's a tough one.

But yes, this has completely grown out of hand for many, many reasons and the Danes played their part in not solving it sooner.

by Nomad (Bjinse) on Sun Feb 5th, 2006 at 05:20:06 PM EST
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the right of complete free speech also entitles people to "hurt" others, as long as the hurt is emotional hurt and does not endager their lives.
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This is just not true as far as I know. Have you heard about "emotional abuse" ...nowadays in progressive countries it's punishable as well as physical abuse...


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Feb 6th, 2006 at 12:17:19 AM EST
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And as far as I see it, it regulates freedom of speech to a degree. Every country is free to see fit how to categorise the range of hurt that is acceptible, and some countries are more sensitive than others. Which is why it is illegal in Germany to deny the Holocaust and why the idiots of Aryan Nations can happily work away in the US.
by Nomad (Bjinse) on Mon Feb 6th, 2006 at 06:11:10 AM EST
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libel laws?

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...
by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Mon Feb 6th, 2006 at 04:54:03 PM EST
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No, not "libel laws"...We in Serbia and YU had other expression for what you suggest.
"Protection of face (meaning personality) and work (meaning achievements)" for the highest figures like presidents etc...
It was unlawful to criticize them.
But I am not talking about it. I am talking about emotional abuse of those who are weaker, like children, sick people, old people, sometimes even women and sometimes even men...employees, immigrants and people that are not in a position to fight on the same level...It very often is a court case and people are suing for "emotional pain that they have endured" because of somebody's else actions.  
As for me when I meet someone here who tells me that I came here from some "monkey country" I usually do not sue. I just answer back:" And you came from long line of convicts or at best floor scrubbing English servants and you did not advance much"...I have a big mouth and do not feel helpless but some people do...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Mon Feb 6th, 2006 at 10:50:59 PM EST
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