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I think your office colleagues were right. The media, as I and others have said several times now, have made a big play of all this. In fact there were very big peaceful demonstrations, and very small groups who went in for the fighting. The government may have tried, a week ago, to play this card too -- look at the dreadful students busting up the Sorbonne (Gilles de Robien, Minister of Education, looking very père sévère: "This is what happens when we allow...") -- but it hasn't worked with the French who support the student movement 63%. So now the gov't has cooled it. Not so the media.

Politically, where it's at now is hard to judge. The unions have moved in with the students. They have given the gov't an ultimatum, withdraw the CPE project before I don't recall which day, Thursday maybe. Villepin says he won't budge. I have no idea which way it will go. Except that, in the past, attempts at "reform" by the authoritarian high road have always failed in France.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Mar 20th, 2006 at 01:10:13 PM EST
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Why is the french government so out of touch? And I don't mean just on the CPE, also on DADVSI, and more.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 20th, 2006 at 01:15:05 PM EST
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Well, they are in touch with their own circle... The kind of people who go to the Davos conference. DADVSI is just what governments all over are lobbied to do, just like the CPE.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Mar 20th, 2006 at 01:40:02 PM EST
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While Metatone is right, I think it's a good question and one I don't have an immediate answer for. What's more, it seems to be a chronic problem in France. Worth thinking about.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Mar 20th, 2006 at 02:11:52 PM EST
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I mean, it's only 4 years ago that the UMP literally swept the parliamentary elections.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 20th, 2006 at 02:12:58 PM EST
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Um, I'm not sure what you mean by that comment?
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Mar 20th, 2006 at 02:46:51 PM EST
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The same story as in Genova 2001. Or many subsequent events.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Mar 20th, 2006 at 01:40:17 PM EST
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Yes.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 20th, 2006 at 01:41:08 PM EST
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That's exactly what I need : someone writing perfect English explaining to me how things really work in France. All of a sudden I get more attentive. Would you be available for classes to yours truly, afew ? :)

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Mon Mar 20th, 2006 at 02:51:29 PM EST
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Why, Agnes, I'm a very experienced teacher one on one. Of English as a Foreign Tongue, of course. :-)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Mar 21st, 2006 at 01:51:22 AM EST
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Well, I might take advantage, my English is a bit rusty as you certainly noticed.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Tue Mar 21st, 2006 at 04:16:43 AM EST
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That's nothing a little polishing can't fix.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Mar 21st, 2006 at 04:46:03 AM EST
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So what would be your on-line advice for emergency fix-up ?

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Tue Mar 21st, 2006 at 06:03:21 AM EST
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Well, I wouldn't advise you to treat it as an emergency. These things take time. Don't they?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Mar 21st, 2006 at 09:50:24 AM EST
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Well, you seem to be pretty good at codes so yes, these things may require the desirable time to be taken.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Tue Mar 21st, 2006 at 02:34:31 PM EST
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Watch some Yes, Minister and Yes, Prime Minister.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Tue Mar 21st, 2006 at 10:25:18 AM EST
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