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panaché (with diacritic on final e) in France is a non-alcoholic imitation of beer, quite unsatisfying.
by Alex in Toulouse on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:19:45 AM EST
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Near-beer for the masses!
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:21:32 AM EST
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Good for the Islamic masses.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:22:36 AM EST
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Did you hear about Hamas  (tm) brand non-alcoholic beer?  Brought to you by the world's only Palestinian brewery:

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:38:58 AM EST
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Could they have come up with the recipe alone, or did they pillage the Creative Commons Vores Øl open source beer and forgot to quote the developers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vores_%C3%98l

by Alex in Toulouse on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:58:40 AM EST
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?? panaché is what's known in Britain as shandy -- ie beer and lemonade mixed. The verb panacher means to mix (originally to mix colours).

Panache as a quality (gallantry) comes from its original sense of a plume of feathers on a helmet.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:43:46 AM EST
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We call that una clara.

Apparently if you dilute beer with lemonade, it has too little alcohol to register with Alex's system.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:45:51 AM EST
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It seems you are right, either I have been watching too many Tourtel commercials, or not enough Panaché ones.
by Alex in Toulouse on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:47:15 AM EST
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by Alex in Toulouse on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:49:49 AM EST
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Btw this is a potential commercial lie.

At the bottom left you see:
"Bière sans alcool" = "beer without alcohol"

But in the center you see:
"Moins de 1% d'alcool en volume" => and this is ambiguous: can mean anything from 0 to 0.9999999999999999999% of alcohol

Thus Tourtels are potentially not suitable for Muslims.

by Alex in Toulouse on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:52:44 AM EST
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We should have French Muslims sue them for misleading advertising.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:56:00 AM EST
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Why in God's name would anyone want to mix beer with lemonade?

A "rock shandy" in South Africa is soda and ginger ale or lemonade, with a few drops of Angostura bitters.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:52:55 AM EST
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Yeah, you tell them stormy! Where do these people get such ideas anyhow, brrrr the shivers, the shivers this gives me.

Mixing beer into lemonade could be ok, but lemonade into beer???

by Alex in Toulouse on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:54:56 AM EST
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It's like acid and water.  Do it the wrong way 'round, and it'll blow up in your face.

In Kenya, and I am not making this up, people drink Guinness mixed with Coca-Cola.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:58:51 AM EST
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Beats me, it's supposed to be refreshing in the summer...

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 08:56:32 AM EST
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