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I'm not "debating" you.

Yes, you are.  You started of by commenting my comment and that is fair enough, after all that is why we are here to exchange views.  

You should really do some research before making statements like this one:

After all it ought to be possible to start a process of democratic reforms gradually while at the same time being able to uphold law and order.  This has been done in the former eastern-block countries and ought to be possible in Russia even if it means reforms at a slower pace.
I did, the statement is from the Washington Post and it is perfectly in order.  Putin has to be able to take criticism like everyone else after all he is the leader of a big and powerful country.  

You don't need to abolish the right to election in order to get to the mafia you just have to beef up the justice system by employing more lawyers and introduce legislation that secures transparency.  One possibility is to set up a directorate that audits and control the regions and their economical and political system and introduce criteria's that ensures the candidates elect ability like no double income, to business interests while in office, no favouring of business contracts and the likes.  There is no guarantee at all that the appointments will not include mafia people as you are well aware of the Soviet apparatchik and the business mafia are very much infiltrated and often feed off each other.  

There was, in my view, no need to tighten the control on the media either, he could have started an investigation, which he did, into the business dealings of the oligarchs and used anti-trust legislation to split the media conglomerate thus ensuring that there no domination of the media sector by a few powerful people that is perfectly legal and are being done when needed in most democratic countries, see the split of the Standard oil company in the US.

This statement leads me to believe you "get" it:

In case you haven't noticed, I understand the process in Russia quite well thank you and that is why I can debate you on this issue.  We are just not in total agreement over the democratic process going on in Russia.  

What is worth noting though is that some people tend to get all emotional when their country is debated.  I can understand that if it had been slander and done in an abusive language but when it's done rationally and in a civil manner I shouldn't be to hard engaging in a debate based on facts and rational opinions.

As I have said before it is perfectly possible to continue the process of democratic reform and at the same time uphold law and order.  In stead of shutting down democratic processes Putin could and indeed should use the legislation more because this is plausible and needed, but within the framework of the constitution and according to rule of law and not according to personal preferences.  

I do think that Russia have to change gradually while at the same time not roll back the democratic process.    

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by Gjermund E Jansen (gjans1@hotmail.com) on Fri Mar 24th, 2006 at 07:09:56 AM EST
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Ни ты, ни один другой человек здесь - кроме blackhawk  не понимает условия в России.

Бесполезно с вами разговаривать.


by slaboymni on Fri Mar 24th, 2006 at 08:43:41 AM EST
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Would you please translate your comment so that some of us here who do not understand Russian can read it.

Thank you in advance.

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by tzt (tzt) on Fri Mar 24th, 2006 at 08:54:44 AM EST
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Something about Blackhawk actually living in Russia?

This comment is provided as is, with no warranties, expressed or implied, as to its correctness, or suitability for any particular purpose, yadda, yadda.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Mar 24th, 2006 at 08:56:52 AM EST
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It says something like:  Neither you nor any other person here - except blackhawk - understands conditions in Russia.  It is useless to talk with you.  Good-bye.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Mar 24th, 2006 at 09:03:33 AM EST
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No, what's useless is talking to someone who insults anyone who disagrees with him and who claims that his own point of view is the only possibly valid one.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Mar 24th, 2006 at 08:55:48 AM EST
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