Kicking the CO2 habit:Wedding Great Lakes Wind to Water | 22 comments (22 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Thanks for the information-rich post. Just a few things:

yes, hydro-pumps are the ideal companion to wind power. You just need the right location which can provide for both. If you do have it, like in your case, it should be a no-brainer
just so you know, GE has basically given up on the 3.6 MW model. They've had too many problems with it and have stopped promoting it to clients, and are starting from scratch on a new (larger) model
the reason peak prices are so "obscenely high" is that the power plant needs to make its revenue over a short period of time. Absolute amounts paid are not that big, because volumes are pretty small. Of course, 3000 $/MWh prices instead of the usual 30-50$/MWh may sound insane, but that's what it takes to clear the market, and it works. No, the real money is made when the marginal baseload plant is an expensive one and everybody starts making out like thieves for normal, regular production over long periods - and that's what's happening when all margina lproducers are gas-fired and gas gets scarce...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Mar 8th, 2006 at 06:41:42 PM EST

yes, hydro-pumps are the ideal companion to wind power. You just need the right location which can provide for both. If you do have it, like in your case, it should be a no-brainer

I think that this is only workable if Ontario and Quebec are on board. Since the North American grid is unified, it can happen.

just so you know, GE has basically given up on the 3.6 MW model. They've had too many problems with it and have stopped promoting it to clients, and are starting from scratch on a new (larger) model

I choose the GE model because I thought it was off the shelf. The Vestas 4.5 MW model they say will be out in 2009, might be even better. The winds at 100 meters are even better than the winds at 50 Meters. The wind density maps on Astruewind are fantastic.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Wed Mar 8th, 2006 at 07:49:22 PM EST
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There are also two german models for 5 MW, one for 6 MW, and at least one (a Vestas) intermediate turbine for 3 MW.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Thu Mar 9th, 2006 at 05:04:40 AM EST
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