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I'm glad we now have official confirmations on this.  If anyone needed proof that "fighting them over there" does not equal being left alone here, 7/7 should've been that proof.

Jen and I were looking forward to taking the Eurostar -- Eurostar, right? -- to Paris when we arrived in Britain, but I think I'd rather just fly at this point, even if it costs a great deal more.  At least until Britain is out of the Middle East.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Apr 18th, 2006 at 09:34:24 AM EST
Why would you not want to take the Eurostar? All high-speed-train terminals have airport-style metal detectors and x-ray scanners.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 18th, 2006 at 09:39:35 AM EST
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Does the Underground not?

It's also a quasi-claustrophobia thing.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Apr 18th, 2006 at 09:53:36 AM EST
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Are you kidding? Do you know the number of passengers the underground and urban rail serve each day?

On the other hand, apparently they have been experimenting with portable metal-detector arches that they can deploy on short notice at selected locations in the underground.

I can understand the claustrophobia issue (after all, the Eurostar is in a tunnel under the sea), even 7/7-induced claustrophobia.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 18th, 2006 at 10:03:49 AM EST
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The Underground currently serves 275 stations and runs over 253 miles (408 km) of lines[1]. There are also a number of stations and tunnels that are now closed. In 2004-2005, total passenger rides or journeys reached a record level of 976 million, an average of 2.67 million per day.
If you think you can deploy metal detectors and scanners on the London Underground network I have a bridge to sell you ;-)

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 18th, 2006 at 10:05:37 AM EST
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I believe -- I could be wrong -- that Washington's subway system now has metal detectors, but I recognize that it's not a great comparison, since the Underground is serving millions and millions of people, while the DC subway servesmaybe half a million, I'm guessing.  London has got to be eight times the size of DC, in terms of population, and perhaps even more.

The "tunnel under the channel" part is what really gets to me.  I'm not very big on being near the water -- yes, despite having lived five miles from the Atlantic Ocean for most of my life.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue Apr 18th, 2006 at 03:25:14 PM EST
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