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Pr Nomad will no doubt enlighten us further, but I wonder if it isn't in order to raise in advance the tricky question of the nature of the gases involved. As Wikipedia tells us, a volcano fart
is a nuée ardente (French for "fiery cloud")
and, indeed,
Flows containing a high proportion of gas to rock are known as pyroclastic surges.

Such gases seem to have killed Pliny the Elder on the beach at Pompeii. Gases caused by the ingestion of a tin of .....z may be described as lethal, but are we certain that the chemical composition is identical in each case?

(If I don't get at least a Commandership in the Order of the PN after that, I'll be... )

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 26th, 2006 at 10:01:35 AM EST
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If you're having trouble with your pyroclastic surges, I recommend seeing a doctor pronto.

"Did yer gerrany on yer,duck?"

I think sulphur plays a part in both systems...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 26th, 2006 at 10:53:42 AM EST
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Aar, I gorrit all over.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Apr 26th, 2006 at 11:44:00 AM EST
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You are hereby promoted to Päänussija which brings with it certain priveleges that I am not at liberty to reveal here.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 26th, 2006 at 12:47:11 PM EST
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The Proto-IndoEuropean gave unto us 2 different words for farting.  Pezd- to 'break wind softly' and the series pardate, perdo, perdzu, perdet, and _pjerdh (from Sanskrit, Greek, Lithuanian, Russian, and Albanian respectively) meaning 'to break wind loudly.'

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Wed Apr 26th, 2006 at 06:36:37 PM EST
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(Hit 'Post' instead of 'Preview.')

This proves that the practice may not be "as old as the hills" but it is certainly as old as Proto-IndoEuropean.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Wed Apr 26th, 2006 at 06:38:52 PM EST
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Presumably well before the IndoEuropeans marched away from the Euphrates in different tribes - including the Celts who populated protoEurope (except for the carrot-tops that turned right and eventually found themselves as the Tokkarians in SW China.

Let's go this way. No, let's go this way. Ok see you. Perdo. Perdo. May the wind blow through your tartan.

An excellent start to the games. The ball is in Afew's court, I believe. Unless there are other challengers...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 26th, 2006 at 06:57:49 PM EST
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I find it slightly disconcerting my name (well, handle) comes up twice in a diary dedicated to farting. What is this? Some unconscious prejudice?

Flatulence of the earth was related with volcanoes from the days of yore.  The Greek, the Romans, during the Middle Ages, although more hellish annotations were more en vogue as well. Dante made his own little contributions to this.

Volcanoes also have a particular mix of gas constituents, a fart signature if you will, although it's also dependable on time. Etna, for instance, is the largest volcanic contributor to atmospheric CO2. It's also quite rich in sulphur. Also, volcanic gasses are monitored and used to predict eruptions.

Just to elucidate to the novice: Pliny the Elder was not killed by a pyroclastic cloud, but as afew said, the gasses from the volcano.  No normal living mammal survives the onslaught of a pyroclastic cloud. As famously recorded, the destruction of St. Pierre by a pyroclastic flow from Mount Pelée killed some 30.000 people and left just two survivors: one of them stowed deep in the city's prison and another living at the city's edge.

Returning to Pliny the Elder, there is also speculation that his death was a combination of exhaustion, possibly asthma or even a heart attack. I can look this up... The descriptions of his final hours were later related to Pliny the Younger also has left us with another impressive witness account of the Pompeii destruction.

(BTW, Order of the PN???)

by Nomad (Bjinse) on Thu Apr 27th, 2006 at 06:51:51 AM EST
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Softlee softlee catchee monkee

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Apr 27th, 2006 at 08:22:56 AM EST
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You're right that Pliny the Elder is supposed by historians to have died of exhaustion or heart attack. Lethal gases would have killed others on the same beach, and he was also quite far from Vesuvius.

So my account is exposed as a fake by a greater PN specialist than I can claim to be.

:^)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 06:08:56 AM EST
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A PN specialist? Just send me the medal already. And if this has something to do with comma penetration, I'm gone.

Good grief.

by Nomad (Bjinse) on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 07:09:41 AM EST
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