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That's quite an irresistible title for a diary! But I did not believe, when reading it, that it would be about an actual movie project...

I'll confess that I actually enjoyed reading the fountainhead and atlas shrugged even if I never took the underlying philosophy very seriously.

Having known the Soviet Union, I could see what bits of the Russian/Soviet history would trigger her anger and diatribes.

BTW - is it true that Greenspan was her lover for a while?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Apr 27th, 2006 at 03:51:31 PM EST
If rumours are to be believed, yes. He was one of her disciples at least....

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by Alexander G Rubio (alexander.rubio@gmail.com) on Thu Apr 27th, 2006 at 03:54:27 PM EST
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My comments are the same as Jerome--enjoyed the book while not accepting the extreme political/economic view.  I'd love to see the movie, because I don't think I want to go back and reread the book.

I would have a real difficult time seeing this book as having the impact that others have described--second to the Bible? I don't think this book would be in the top 100 on that criterion.

by wchurchill on Thu Apr 27th, 2006 at 04:37:38 PM EST
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You should spend more time around the techno-libertarians. It's sort of scary.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Apr 27th, 2006 at 04:43:14 PM EST
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Yes, mention Ayn Rand on Slashdot and behold the collective techno-geek erection...

Oh yes, programmers and technologists are a breed above and don't need no stinkin' unions etc... One would have thought the dot.bomb crash and outsourcing would have taught them differently by now. So much for superior cognitive abilities...

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by Alexander G Rubio (alexander.rubio@gmail.com) on Thu Apr 27th, 2006 at 04:47:28 PM EST
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The techno-geek crowd is rather diverse. Slashdot was da bomb in the mid to late 90s, after that most reasonably minded techno-geeks gave up on this site as it plunged into worthlessness with the popularization of the internet. Many of the techno-geeks I know (quite a large number), read Ayn Rand, and loved it, when we were 15. Then we grew up and stopped being such arrogant and selfish little shitheads. I can't speak to who these Ayn Rand lovin' crazies on slashdot are, but they are not the only ones who might fit the techno-geek label.
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 09:31:12 AM EST
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hmmm, not sure I know any techno-geeks.  and based on your comments, should I want to?
by wchurchill on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 01:57:36 AM EST
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Aah, most of us techno-geeks are decent people. Well, except for the trekkies; they're just plain weird.

As for Ayn Rand...read Atlas Shrugged a while ago. Some parts were really infuriating. But mostly it was God damn repetative. Over and over and over and over, not to mention and over, again Rand kept making the same point ("If you're stupid you deserve to starve. I pwnz you!"). Now, if she'd cut about 500 pages of the book, it might have made for a decent read.
I don't know if it's second only to the Bible in terms of influence, but I think it's second only to the Bible in terms of length!

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 07:32:37 AM EST
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Well, except for the trekkies; they're just plain weird.

Hey, I resemble that remark. :-P

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 08:09:24 PM EST
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There's loads of them around here, so I wouldn't worry. It's a certain dist
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 09:41:02 AM EST
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You mean, Greenspan being Jolie's lover ? How women happen to have strange tastes sometimes ... :)

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 03:22:38 AM EST
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No such luck for old Alan, I'm afraid. He had to settle for schtupping Ayn Rand, which, though I've never slept with either off them, seems like a poor substitute ;)

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by Alexander G Rubio (alexander.rubio@gmail.com) on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 09:00:29 AM EST
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Hmm...Rand or Jolie?  Decisions, decisions....

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 11:08:02 AM EST
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Nah.  Greenspan's been sleeping with Andrea Mitchell for centuries.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 11:15:24 AM EST
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You would hope so since they married 9 years ago...

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 11:21:21 AM EST
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Well, he was working with the American male assumption that sex stops where marriage begins, so he got a few centuries in prior to the vows.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 11:28:21 AM EST
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No.  It's not true.  He was a good friend of Rand's, and some would say a follower, but they never quite agreed on philosophy.  I think he was a member of the Collective, though -- by the way, the most ironic name for such a group of people that could've possibly been thought of.  Greenspan has always been a believer in the activist Fed, which is, of course, the opposite of the Randian and Rothbardian views that hold it to be totalitarian in nature.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 11:04:43 AM EST
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It must be said that Greenspan has shifted his position quite a bit over the years. Old "Bubbles" even used to be something of a gold-bug, before he was put in charge of the printing press...

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by Alexander G Rubio (alexander.rubio@gmail.com) on Fri Apr 28th, 2006 at 11:47:38 AM EST
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