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Actually, I think Mill was writing prior to the time when the title of economist was in heavy use.  He was a Professor of Moral Philosophy, as was everyone from Smith to John Neville Keynes (Keynes's father).  So that's probably why he is referred to as a philosopher.

Anyway, I really enjoyed this and look forward to the next installment.  Thanks.  You and I are going to have to start a book club of some sort when I arrive in Britain.

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by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 10:59:46 AM EST
Well, the problem is when you pigeonhole a thinker of the stature and versatility of Mill and then put all his books in the same section of the bookstore.

For instance, his works on logic and ethics belong in philosophy, but he also wrote on representative government, wrote the most important economics treatise for half a century, and then other things like The subjection of women.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that he could have books in three or four different secions, but they get all shelved together under 'philosophy' and then economists, political scientists and feminists don't read him.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 04:58:10 PM EST
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I completely agree.  He was a brilliant writer and thinker, and a store could easily have his works in forty different sections, unlike 99.9% of writers.  It is a lot more simple to stuff his work in the philosophy section, though.  I have a bad knee.  It would be a pain to go running all over the store looking for a writer's work.  One of Keynes's first books was A Treatise on Probability, which was, of course, placed in the economics section, despite having very little, if anything, to do with economics.  But he's known for economic theory, so the store threw it in there.

Look on the bright side: At least the stores sell Mills books there.  I was furious, back when I read The General Theory and Friedman's Monetary History, because not one bookstore in the city had either book.  Easily the two most famous economics book on the 20th Century, but no one had them.  They certainly had plenty of copies of The (friggin') Da Vinci Code, though.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon May 1st, 2006 at 08:59:05 PM EST
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Drew, just out of curiosity, how many original works (and which) is a modern Economics graduate supposed to have read as part of their degree?

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 2nd, 2006 at 04:49:23 AM EST
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It depends on which classes the student takes.  If the student avoids the classes on economic history and thought, he won't have to read any.  (Sad, I know.)  When my father was an econ. student at Florida State, they had to read many, but usually not in full.  Economic history is not required, so students don't actually need to read any original works, but I took the class, and we read a fair amount.  It's difficult to cover everything in one semester, obviously, and I wasn't able to fit the other history class into my schedule.  (I'm thinking about sitting in on the class this Summer, just for the hell of it, but I have no idea if it's being taught.)

Usually, the students who are interested in academic economics as a career path will read many -- Smith, Marx, Keynes, Friedman, Marshall, Hayek, Mises, etc., although Mises was really only covered for his critique of central planning because of my professor being an Austrian follower.  (And, God Almighty, could he rant about how great the Austrians were.  This was the class in which I learned that Keynes was Satan.)  I've read most of these, but didn't complete Das Capital or Marshall's Principles, and couldn't make it through even the first few pages of Mises's hideously-boring work.  Mill was, unfortunately, covered only briefly and without any reading.

The class I attended involved a twenty-page term paper on a chosen economist's influence in modern life.  Most students in my class chose either Marx or Smith, because we were apparently suffering from an originality shortage.  I, of course, chose Keynes, since I was reading (and loving) The Economic Consequences of the Peace at the time, anyway, and it provided a great excuse to buy his other books and harass my professor for lying about him.

So that's about the full extent of it.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Tue May 2nd, 2006 at 11:25:25 AM EST
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I think Metatone and I had already talked about sharing books. I should research how much it costs to mail a paperback. Can't be that expensive.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 2nd, 2006 at 06:41:47 AM EST
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