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  1. You addressed this, but I think it bears repeating.  No need to compare this to rape.  The feeling of being violated is not inherently like being raped.  You could just as easily compare it to being mugged or wire-tapped.  Not upset at you or anything, but just asking that we all have a little perspective around here.

  2. It is best to have a rule that you don't post anything on the Internet that you don't want the whole entire world to know.  Because you aren't just talking among friends, you are posting something on a bulletin board anyone in the world can look at.  Is it a violation of privacy if someone gets the info you post?  Not really.  But is it creepy and disturbing anyway?  Yes!  (I have a very unusual name and one day got an e-mail from some complete stranger with the same name.  My e-mail acct. didn't include my name.  So I freaked out and demanded to know how they got my name, who they were.  Sure, I'd posted my name and e-mail all over the internet in the Dean days. But is still scared me to death.)  Is it a violation if they abuse the info you post?  Hell yes.  

  3. I've posted enough stuff on ET for people to figure out who I am even without posting my name or e-mail here.  I've been on the Internet long enough that if someone were determined to find out the goods on me they easily could.  And given my political activism, my job, my travelling to Russia..., knowing the NSA, they probably have.  

I'd say forget rape.  I think we all have an inkling of what it must feel like to live in the Soviet Union or China, where our actions and words are being monitored by strangers who may not like what we are saying or doing.  

Freaky world we live in these days.  But there are pros and cons to blogging, and the pros are winning out for me at the moment.  Hope you decide it is worth it to stick around.  :)

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Fri Apr 7th, 2006 at 06:11:06 PM EST
I think you've pretty much summed it up real well.
by Alex in Toulouse on Fri Apr 7th, 2006 at 06:13:41 PM EST
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You could just as easily compare it to being mugged or wire-tapped.

Well, there could be the fear of a rapist tracking you down.

It is best to have a rule that you don't post anything on the Internet that you don't want the whole entire world to know.

In practice, that advice is possibly difficult to follow for most, to keep in mind constantly that we are not at a closed party.

I have a very unusual name and one day got an e-mail from some complete stranger with the same name.

Heh, maybe a guy I found with Google with the same name as one of my grand-grand-grandfathers didn't answer my email for similar reasons...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Apr 7th, 2006 at 06:27:58 PM EST
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~ Yes.

~ I think that since the whole Patriot Act, I've become so paranoid about gov't spying that it's pretty easy for me, actually.  Then again, the list of things I don't want people to know about me is pretty short.

~ I think people just distrust personal e-mails from stangers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Fri Apr 7th, 2006 at 06:36:01 PM EST
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Government spying, I get you. For me, that came in the late nineties with the Echelon furore, then after 9/11 for a time I had a .sig filled with terms meant for the NSA (Bin Laden Bush bomb rocket white house anthrax jihad etc.). But I'd fear for the privacy of different information with regards to governments and potential stalkers.

About the last; my Google hit was a post of his at some genealogy forum a few years earlier than my email...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Apr 7th, 2006 at 06:48:50 PM EST
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have a rule that you don't post anything on the Internet that you don't want the whole entire world to know.  Because you aren't just talking among friends, you are posting something on a bulletin board anyone in the world can look at

That is exactly what I was too naive to realise on time. A bit too late now... However, from what i have seen, the only source for my name being on google is ET so I guess I have managed to keep things under control elsewhere.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill

by Agnes a Paris on Fri Apr 7th, 2006 at 06:28:52 PM EST
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I just checked to see. Good news, there seem to be a lot of people named like you!! (ps: this used to be a game with friends, we'd type a full name search in Google, and then say "shit I didn't know you were a Canadian writer!")

In my case however, typing my full name only gets me. I've tried, and you only find me. You even find me in a company where I only intervened for two weeks, still listed as active staff there (bastards)!!

by Alex in Toulouse on Fri Apr 7th, 2006 at 06:33:55 PM EST
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This is why, when we were playing at decoding Gone With The Windmills, I skirted round posting actual details online, and even suggested the game had gone far enough. At that juncture my Sherlock activities had brought me just a little more information than I was comfortable with (since it hadn't been communicated to me by those concerned). Not about you, though, Agnes <darn! ;)>.

I don't think it's paranoid to take care what we put online. At least, if we give personal details, we should be sure we don't mind what the consequences might be. And we shouldn't give information about others, even in play.

AAAARRRGH, I posted a picture of Alex in Toulouse's feet !! He'll get revenge, he'll set Bob on me! I'll get didgeridoo'd!! AAAARRRGGGHHH!!!

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Apr 8th, 2006 at 08:37:11 AM EST
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Amer gonner git you </bob>
by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Apr 8th, 2006 at 09:59:57 AM EST
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Who?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Apr 8th, 2006 at 04:29:27 PM EST
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From what you say, afew, I think I should  get more familiar with the possibilities of Google. The only way I use it is type in one key word.
I'm sure there is some more elaborated  like multiple entry search and that kind of suff. And you are allowed to make fun of me ! ...

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Sat Apr 8th, 2006 at 02:21:48 PM EST
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Well, just a combination of words or names. The choice of words or the order you put them in can bring up different results. When you're searching (seriously) for information you have to play around with the keywords and permutations. In the case I mentioned, I was looking for confirmation of my hypothesis (about the decoding game), and found a bit more than I needed. So I suggested we stop there, because if we went on we'd be playing with people's real lives...

(Not that this isn't part of our real lives, what we do here. Not for me, anyway).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Apr 8th, 2006 at 04:27:37 PM EST
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You can also search for an exact expression by entering " signs around it, such as:

"Bob Marley"

by Alex in Toulouse on Sat Apr 8th, 2006 at 07:03:49 PM EST
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That I knew, it's basics, non ?

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Sun Apr 9th, 2006 at 04:19:09 PM EST
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It is best to have a rule that you don't post anything on the Internet that you don't want the whole entire world to know.  Because you aren't just talking among friends, you are posting something on a bulletin board anyone in the world can look at.  Is it a violation of privacy if someone gets the info you post?  Not really.  But is it creepy and disturbing anyway?  Yes!  

From personal experience, sometimes the people that read such info just want to spoil your day because you've said something they don't like or which counters their world-view and they find that they can can get in your face a bit.

Yes, this happened to me and possibly could have lost my job if somebody had been a fraction more vindictive. The online world is not entirely populated with rational and kind people.

Do not be afraid, but do be wary.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 08:21:12 AM EST
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