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Jerome is almost surely correct that the "management" at dKos had nothing to do with the disappearance of your comment.  If you had been in a flame war with the group that considers itself Kos's enforcers and troll rates as a gang, you would have known it at the time.

Your instinct that your comment would not be appreciated by some in authority, however, is probably not far off.  Political viewpoint may be part of the reason, but more important is the site's near obsession with its reputation and public perception.  They seem to view themselves as a quasi-official organ that must be scrub itself free of material that would subject it to criticism that it is a "fringe" institution.

dKos is not a place for the kind of reasoned discourse that is the norm here.  Many people fly in and leave comments having read scarcely more than a diary's title, and some very disagreeable personalities quickly resort to ad hominem.

But the site's size and structure do make it useful for some things.  Jerome has managed to disseminate a lot of information about energy policy to a large readership.  He patiently built up his credibility before nearly crossing the line of permissible discourse himself by daring to suggest that Americans might have to alter their lifestyles in the near future.

When I grew frustrated at the lack of front page coverage at dKos of Bush's push for war against Iran, I posted some diaries during the past couple of weeks.  When one appeared criticizing Senate Democrats for signing on to Santorum's Iran Freedom Support Act, I took quite a beating from the Dems uber alles crowd, but the diary still sat on the rec list for quite a while with the result that the information was all over the Internet the next day and a Green candidate for Senate even used it to put the heat on Herb Kohl in Wisconsin.  It would be tough to think of another forum where some guy can come out of nowhere (almost literally) and post something that has that kind of impact.

I am ready for a break from dKos myself.  Armando's rant and the accompanying thread about some diary ending up on the rec list reminded me of the times in elementary school when we would stand on the baseball diamond arguing about the rules until it was too dark to play.  All the elements were there: the guy who said he was going to get his father if everyone didn't give in to him and the "me too" chorus.  It was especially ridiculous because the whole thing was supposedly about maintaining a mature and serious image.  Oh my.

So proximity1, I can empathize with how you feel, but I know you're appreciated around here.

by goinsouth (imgoinsouth@gmail.com) on Tue May 23rd, 2006 at 06:38:09 AM EST
dkos will give you what you put in, mostly. If you're polite, people will almost never be nasty to you. If you are wonky, the diaries will be as well. If you are responsive, people will remember you and be friendlier.
And the same with the symmetrical behaviors...

If you have controversial opinions, be ready to defend them with arguments, stay polite, and respond peacefully, even if people are hostile or aggressive.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue May 23rd, 2006 at 08:13:26 AM EST
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 Thank you for that wise counsel.

 You're right-- I have controversial opinions; and I  expect them to be opposed, attacked, criticized, and I am prepared to defend them-- and even change them, even find my views corrected and undone by the arguments of those who can successfully show me my mistakes.

 I posted at the Dailykos an "Update" on my diary entry in which I responded to the 31 comments it drew.

  I see that Jerome is correct, as are others there, who pointed out that the "problem" was due in the first place to the diarist's deleting his or her own diary and, with it, the scores or the hundreds of posts which were appended in reply.

  As we saw with FarEasterner's attempt to edit one of his diaries, such a deletion can occur through a simple mis-struck key; though he shows us, as well, how a responsible person reacts when that sort of thing happens.  Since he was able to do so, he restored all the almost-lost replies verbatim and explained to us what had happened.

  That is exemplary of the quality of the participants here in contrast to what is inevitably the case in a site where hundreds and hundreds contribute.

  I know how very much Eurotrib's contributors are to be valued for the differences they demonstrate.  The quality of this place is rare.

"In such an environment it is not surprising that the ills of technology should seem curable only through the application of more technology..." John W Aldridge

by proximity1 on Tue May 23rd, 2006 at 10:01:27 AM EST
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