Welcome to European Tribune. It's gone a bit quiet around here these days, but it's still going.
for your comment. I plan to look into it (hopefully broaden my perspective/educate myself) when I can make the time.
by Gary McGowan on Tue May 30th, 2006 at 07:49:58 PM EST
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For what it's worth, the way I read the first quote you present, was for it to have said
all of these categories of countergangs have strong ties to the same European Synarchist financial circles.
The categories (so-called hooligan gangs, neo-Nazi youth, and "Islamist" organizations) appear earlier in the same sentence you quote from.

The second quote,

"a new international fascist apparatus, which was already linked to the Madrid, Spain bombings of March 11, 2004"

is "out there" and "for uninformed readers,"  according to you.

You seem to be implying that either most readers are "informed" [a term worthy of some discussion, but for another time] or that, only some limited few, including yourself, are "informed,"  but you are for some reason not inclined to inform the rest of us now.  At any rate, I suspect your dismissive comment exemplifies a logical fallacy, but I confess I cannot identify it by name.  (Like - "That's stupid. Everyone knows better than that." )

I'm not sure if you believe that no such thing as "an international fascist apparatus" exists, or if you are simply doubting that it has been linked to the Madrid bombing. Actually, I can't prove either proposition. LaRouche talks about the subject in the links below.

Article documents a "revamped fascist international apparatus" in continental Europe (names many people and groups, and their connections)--with prominent extensions into Latin America, set in motion at a Nov. 2002 meeting in Madrid hosted by Blas Piñar, "Spain's leading fascist figure today," and featuring "Italian neo-Fascist Roberto Fiore," of Forza Nuova.

and another (Larouche publications) article

"And in mid-December [2003] in Italy, Roberto Fiore, a prominent figure in the new fascist international being organized out of Madrid, showed his true colors as well. He announced that his Forza Nuova grouping had joined two other splinter groups to form an electoral alliance for the upcoming European elections, with none other than Alessandra Mussolini, the grand-daughter of Il Duce. Ms. Mussolini will be the lead candidate for the slate, and the coalition's poster portrays her alongside Fiore and the two other neo-Fascist leaders, under the slogan: "Together for a Social Movement." In Italy, the name "Social Movement" clearly brings to mind the old Movimento Sociale Italiano (MSI), founded by former members of Mussolini's separatist Salò Republic.

"When Ms. Mussolini, who is a member of Parliament, ran into internal opposition to this alliance from within her current party, she reportedly was supported by Princess Pallavicini, representing Italy's and Europe's old Black Nobility. ..."

"Mussolini, Fiore, Caponnetto, and Ordóñez are all part of a broader Synarchist operation now under way [. . .] Spanish Carlist in roots, fascist in outlook, and terrorist-linked in current political strategic deployment."

Nowhere, I confess, do I see any link actually established between any of the mentioned persons or groups, and the Madrid, Spain bombings of March 11, 2004. It is only by similarity to historical patterns that I can tend to see the possibility of their involvement in such operations.

I (or LaRouche and colleagues) just don't believe that sophisticated terrorist operations are run out of caves in Afghanistan or from apartment hideaways. That I (or LaRouche and colleagues) can not prove such empirically seems to be at least one of the problems here.

by Gary McGowan on Wed May 31st, 2006 at 11:34:38 AM EST
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