Chernobyl's Downplayed Victims | 49 comments (49 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Chernobyl's Downplayed Victims (4.00 / 3)

A well researched and deeply disturbing diary.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun May 7th, 2006 at 06:49:32 AM EST

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Whoever wants to make an even deeper research- somebody got the brilliant idea to actually organize Chernobyl cruises- please sign up here.

I've always wondered how people can think of ways to make money out of everything- even of a tragedy like this. But maybe I am too idealistic.

Anyways, I also read a lot about Chernobyl recently, but I need to say that this is a very good diary and fills many of my blanks about the case. Thanks!

I can resist anything but temptation.- Oscar Wilde

by Little L (ljolito (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sun May 7th, 2006 at 11:01:33 AM EST
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No, me thanks :-)

At the university (physics), when a younger guy had practical radiology class with us, he recounted how an older and famous collague excitedly invited him for a visit to Chernobyl, saying something like, "sacrificing four month's permissible radiation is worth it!", but the younger collague winked off...

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Sun May 7th, 2006 at 11:05:30 AM EST
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I wouldn't sacrifice $300 for any amount of radiation I could get there, but I'd be very interested how many would.

I can resist anything but temptation.- Oscar Wilde

by Little L (ljolito (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sun May 7th, 2006 at 11:11:04 AM EST
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I must add that working in a radiation laboratory, getting any amount of radiation was not his worry - it was more that that 'four month's worth of permissible radiation' is a mean with large uncertainties, and that, say, he may carry a highly radioactive dust particle unnoticed.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Sun May 7th, 2006 at 12:22:47 PM EST
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Apparently radioactive dust gets washed off asphalt by rainfall, so that roads are relatively safe. Open soil, vegetation and buildings are not safe.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun May 7th, 2006 at 12:32:41 PM EST
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Do you guys know about Ghost Town? It's a sort of motorcycle travel diary by the daughter of a Ukrainian nuclear physicst.

DeAnander sourced the map of the "Dead Zone" and most of the other images for the paralle diary from this girl's website, but did not mention it, nor quote any text from it. Whassup with that?

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun May 7th, 2006 at 11:26:03 AM EST
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I understand this is is a fake story, made using real pictures from the zone.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun May 7th, 2006 at 12:42:27 PM EST
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Care to expand that?

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun May 7th, 2006 at 12:45:08 PM EST
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Sorry, I cannot find the link again, but I remember perfectly reading it (after reading that story and disbelieving that it was untrue when the same was pointed out to me)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun May 7th, 2006 at 01:23:23 PM EST
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Re: Chernobyl's Downplayed Victims (4.00 / 2)

Here.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Sun May 7th, 2006 at 01:30:04 PM EST
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Somebody should alert Max Ström publishing company and Sveriges Radio [scroll down to item Tjernobyl].

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun May 7th, 2006 at 03:34:02 PM EST
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Look at Wikipedia Kiddofspeed Entry

The photographs' authenticity is not challenged, as far as I know. The narrative into which they have been placed by Elena Filatova has been debunked pretty thoroughly as semi-fictional. Thus I quote zero text from that site, but only use it as a handy archive of photographs from the Dead Zone and surrounding regions.

If anyone can convincingly debunk a specific photograph I included as faked or wrongly ascribed, then I didn't do enough homework and will have to print a retraction. I did not include some suspect photos from partisan websites for this very reason.

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Sun May 7th, 2006 at 10:24:29 PM EST
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I note that via my Wormwood Forest link (last picture in diary), you'll find another Chernobyl gallery.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Mon May 8th, 2006 at 04:10:06 AM EST
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