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Nice rant but...from an outsider/lurker point of view, a little misguided.
This forum has members who range from mover-and-shaker types like Jerome (and from what you say, yourself) to intellectuals like Migeru. The ambiance is much more like walking into the middle of a heated philosophical discussion at an interesting cafe than the political convention that is Kos. FWIW, both are necessary in that it's hard to make concrete decisions without a lot of sound input, both practical and theoretical; but once that knowledge is gained, action should be taken to put that information to work.
From a personal standpoint, I find it difficult to join in a majority of conversations on ET because I'm simply not qualified to comment. Where I came from, I had a broad understanding of the culture and enough specialized knowledge of many issues to contribute positively to the progressive dialogue. I was known by most of the players on the political scene, and even counted some of them as friends so my opinion was trusted, and furthermore it mattered.
Since moving to England, I find that a lot of the issues this country is dealing with are subtly different, the way that the media deals with them is biased in unfamiliar ways. The attitude of "the man on the street" and its relation to both the political system and the way the media portrays it is also ambiguous. Until I have a better understanding of both this culture and that of greater Europe, it behooves me to keep on lurking rather than taking actions which are naive or misguided.
Your input as an activist is valuable and appreciated, but then so is that of the posters who offer observation, analysis, and even snark.
by northsylvania on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 06:17:26 AM EST
So you are also in England... I think a UK ET meetup is urgent. There are a lot of us (I bet easily a dozen just in London) and we should get to know each other.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 06:20:28 AM EST
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You are both too kind.
A UK meetup would be wonderful, though the main reason I missed the French one was not Francophobia, but being stuck in the States packing and fixing up the house to sell. It was finished just in time to miss YearlyKos. Feh.
by northsylvania on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 08:13:41 AM EST
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Next good opportunity could be at the Great British Beer festival in the first week of August. There will be cider and much foreign (inc US) beer if British ale don't float yer boat.

Any interest ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 08:34:33 AM EST
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If a beer festival is what it takes, by all means...

We should need our own tent if we get all 60+ of us to show up ;-)

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 08:42:49 AM EST
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If we get 6+ I'll be amazed, let alone 60 !! Especially as ThatBritGuy doesn't drink and may resent having to pay to enter a beer fest.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 09:07:52 AM EST
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If we get 6+ I'll be amazed

Then we need an alternative plan. This is ridiculous, what does it take to get UK ETers out of their dens?

I'm not too thrilled about paying to enter a beer fest either, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 09:12:08 AM EST
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I flew the idea simply cos it's a novel thing to do and a semi-formal beer tasting might have made for a fun entree.

However, I'm perfectly happy to go elsewhere, but a lot of UK/South East England members seem to prefer not to socialise with us.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 09:25:20 AM EST
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Like I said, whatever works.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 09:28:52 AM EST
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How in blazes did you people ever manage to run  empires? Did you just send the Irish and the Scots over to do it for you? Can someone pick a date and a place for a 51st state of the US meet-up and be done with it? I don't care if it's drinking beer, watching cricket or walking the treadmill in the local work-house. August/September sounds good. September is probably better if you want to avoid the holiday thing. Though I suspect people here may be more likely to be on holiday in September than in August.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 10:25:29 AM EST
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your perspective as an outsider discovering the local rules would certainly be enlightening and interesting to us.

We don't want to get too cynical or jaded - we need new input, fresh blood!

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 06:29:42 AM EST
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If I may dust off an old chestnut:
"Blog! I must write blog or die!"
by Number 6 on Tue Jul 4th, 2006 at 07:04:35 AM EST
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