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 I subscribe to all of the above by afew with this sole exception, noted:

  "...perhaps you should do as you say and go. "

  I don't really think you're expecting pay for your time here so my view is that, really, you ought to stick around and contribute as much as you can and want to; and when your posts don't draw the attention and the reaction they deserve, try, try again and try not to take it too personally.

 I have a lot of respect for most of what you write.

  To accuse people here of cynicism is one of the most outrageously funny and absurd allegations I've seen in quite a while.

  You think about it a moment: we come here, we debate, we take each other seriously when no one else beyond our personal circle of associates does, we care about the political life of the society in which we live--care about it so much that we spend hours reading, considering, writing, arguing and thinking some more.

   If that qualifies as what cynical people do, then I'm a cocked hat!

  The high-muckety-mucks you have the "privilege" to frequent--they're principals in "We'll fuck up the world for fun and profit, Inc."  so, if you can influence them, then please, by all means, do so.  But I have no interest or intention in lending any of my all-too-tiny support to their efforts.

  I'm a four-star outsider because among other things, I refuse the price of admission to the club even if an entry were possible, which it clearly isn't.

"In such an environment it is not surprising that the ills of technology should seem curable only through the application of more technology..." John W Aldridge

by proximity1 on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 10:04:52 AM EST
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we care about the political life of the society in which we live

And of societies in which we don't live, too.

By the way, if there were a "desillusioned cynicist (rabid dog on the beach)" competition here on ET, some of Ritter's comments would rank quite high, possibly even taking top spot.

So I strongly disagree with Trond Ove: if this is the stick, I'll let you guess where Ritter can stick his carrot. [Fortunately Oct 10 is 120 days away, so I'll have time to forget this idiocy. Unfortunately I don't think I'll feel like taking 2 days of vacation to go to Brussels in the autumn and schmooze with two ambassadors.]

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 10:12:30 AM EST
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"...perhaps you should do as you say and go. "

is the part of my comment I most disagree with myself.

I don't want Ritter to go!!

But I'd love Ritter to sort out some of his contradictions (insofar as they impact us via his comments and suggestions).

What are you, Ritter, a free-electron street-fighting man, or an insider-schmoozer in the corridors of power?

You know, I think a lot of us here don't easily engage in discussion on your comments because you so often pose as one or the other or both of the above. And you do so with a certain dose of self-righteousness.

A lot of us here want to move on to a phase of activism. First we want to get the ideas right, the facts (as far as they can be discerned) right, the metrics (possibly/probably new ones) right. That takes time -- all the more that we don't have much and are not paid to do this full time.

A little indulgence, a little understanding?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jun 30th, 2006 at 10:48:07 AM EST
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