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I think it's as clear as is reasonably possible (from the admittedly choppy videos) that it was not sexual harassment.  I think it's also clear that he was acting like an oaf, but that's a given whenever Bush appears with other world leaders...except perhaps the Japanese prime minister, whose Elvis impression was one for the record books, as far as stupid things done by world leaders in the presence of other world leaders is concerned.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Jul 19th, 2006 at 07:22:03 PM EST
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I agree completely it is not sexual, it is just bullying.
With the anecdotes of Bush's alpha-male gestures adding, I cannot help but think of a colleague of mine as I worked in a meditteranean country, that is southern of my own native culture. The more southern, the more physical contact occurs as communication, as the prejudice goes, and it is true. But that colleague was extreme and special: it was always about taking the upper hand over the others, regardless of the official status in the company. He had started on the production line, and as he was not dumb, was on his way upwards (union representative, clerk job...).
I had seen him coming, and knew if you give in, he would go on, it was compulsive by him: take a finger, then the hand, then the whole arm... So the first time he reached to grasp me, I just plainly hit back hard on the shoulder with a smile. He understood very well, and we were again on a very sane basis ;-)
But Bush comes from a Wasp family, I can't figure someone like him using such way of "communicating" his dominance.
And I can't figure such a primitive way of setting the relations among heads of state: WTF are symbols and protocol made for!!???
I loath Chirac, but:  Bush would never tried such cheap shots with him, as far as I know: every bully find some day his alpha-male...
I believe he made a mistake: Angie is tougher than she looks, more than one CSU bully broke his teeth on her.

La répartie est dans l'escalier. Elle revient de suite.
by lacordaire on Thu Jul 20th, 2006 at 05:37:18 AM EST
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And I can't figure such a primitive way of setting the relations among heads of state: WTF are symbols and protocol made for!!???

One thing that Bush has made very clear is that he has no grasp for the necessity or usefulness of protocol. But then again, he is not only culturally insensitive but borderline psychopathic.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 20th, 2006 at 05:42:04 AM EST
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But then again, he is not only culturally insensitive but borderline psychopathic.

Yes, it's a nasty habit among Texans.  (Why do you think we refuse to accept them as member of the Deep South?)  I maintain that Texas is not a state but a planet unto itself, although a great friend of mine in Atlanta lived outside of Houston for a few years (and picked up the accent in a matter of minutes).

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Jul 20th, 2006 at 05:03:53 PM EST
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It feels a bit like watching an adolescent randomly pick from a repertoire of observed behaviour without knowing the deeper connotations.

So I'd agree with not "sexual," probably not even "intentionally bullying," just immaturity/inexperience.
(Which is actually not a problem if Cheney et al are running the place ...)

by Number 6 on Thu Jul 20th, 2006 at 09:43:26 AM EST
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I'm going to have to let you borrow my Saturday Night Live tape of presidential skits one of these days.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Jul 20th, 2006 at 05:04:45 PM EST
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"You want me to beg? I'm begging. You want me on my knees? I'm on my knees. Please don't make me a one-termer!"
-Dana Carvey as "George HW Bush", Saturday Night Live, 1992.
(Transcribing from memory.)
by Number 6 on Fri Jul 21st, 2006 at 05:31:58 AM EST
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Oh, no.  You need to see the Bush Sr. and Jr. hunting skit.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Jul 21st, 2006 at 01:29:47 PM EST
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OK, I think I've found it. The one with the antlers? "Probably only be four years anyway."?
by Number 6 on Mon Aug 7th, 2006 at 04:32:09 AM EST
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