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Thanks once again to de Gondi for helping to weave the
many threads of this story into a sturdy fabric.  The
activities of American intelligence services (CIA, NSA, and God knows who else) have managed to foster chaos in the intelligence communities of (at least) three European allies over the last year or so: Greece, Italy, and Switzerland, not to mention the creation of tensions in relations with Sweden, Ireland, Poland, Hungary, and others for "extraordinary rendition".  The Swiss case is really in this second category, since the message  intercepted by Swiss intelligence which was sent from Cairo to London and corroborated allegations on the existence of CIA prisons in Europe, was also a sort of "illegal wiretap", (leaked at the behest of some well-informed mole?).  One doubts that the perpetrators of such fiascos will ever arrive at what might seem the obvious conclusion:  in an age in which leaks must be assumed to be probable, the most subtle and wily strategy for an intelligence agency would seem to be moral rectitude, rigorous honesty, and open dealings with friend and foe.  But that would, I suppose, spoil the fun of the "game".

Hannah K. O'Luthon
by Hannah K OLuthon on Thu Jul 27th, 2006 at 10:15:54 AM EST
I am actually surprised at the progress that has been made in this case by Italian judiciary authorities. I wonder if similar work by magistrates could be carried out in another European country. The Spanish judiciary has moved against the US on extraordinary renditions. But have the Swedes or Germans?

The US has always asserted that these actions are undertaken with the knowledge of foreign state authorities. With the hundreds of flights that have been tabulated, where is solid judiciary action outside Italy and Spain?

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Jul 27th, 2006 at 05:04:10 PM EST
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Because of the italian constitution (I don't know the spanish one) and its extreme care to shield the juge from the governement.
It was written after the fascist era, you know, by people who had to suffer from a justice by and from the power.
Or so I have read.
It works for the inquiry side, but the judiciary system is much less effective by sanctioning. There, the italian trait of forgiving the culprit is the main factor. Last proof was the calciopoli sentences in appeal.

La répartie est dans l'escalier. Elle revient de suite.
by lacordaire on Fri Jul 28th, 2006 at 06:18:27 AM EST
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Oops, bad writing.
 I should have written: Italy in that case is more the exception than the rule, because....

La répartie est dans l'escalier. Elle revient de suite.
by lacordaire on Fri Jul 28th, 2006 at 06:20:54 AM EST
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