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Funny, no one says that Lebanon has the right to defend themselves do they?...

Actually, everyone except Syria does, even the Israelis.
The problem is that Hizbullah decided to attack Israel for the following racist reason:

Nasrallah believes with the Israeli soldiers captured he can negotiate for Palestian/Lebanese people that Israel has in prison.

In other words, the leadership of Hizbullah think that as craven, inferior cowards [like all Jews], the Israeli government would come calling "hat in hand" to beg the superior Muslim supermen to get it's people back.

AFAIK, Hizbullah had been fireing rockets as soon as the whole thing started, except that they were small ones with no guiding device inside.

by messy on Fri Jul 28th, 2006 at 09:37:44 AM EST
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Who do you think Lebanon needs to defend itself from, just to be sure?

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 28th, 2006 at 09:42:55 AM EST
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Don't put words in my mouth..that is not what I stated or implied at all.  My understanding from reading is that the captured Israeli soldiers were going to be used to negotiate as has been done before except Olmert choose not to do so.

I wasn't even trying to be particularly pro/con just stated the facts as I seen them but as always 'facts' can be open to interpretation depending on a persons viewpoint.

As for Lebanon defending itself-I was speaking to that basically from the viewpoint in the US...and US news.  I seldom listen to the news but when I have turned it on it seems that is what I've heard over/over-'that Israel has the right to defend itself'...nothing said about Lebanon.

"People never do evil so throughly and happily as when they do it from moral conviction."-Blaise Pascal

by chocolate ink on Fri Jul 28th, 2006 at 12:53:40 PM EST
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my above post was in response to messy not Migeru....although if you are asking me about Lebanon defending itself I simply meant every country has a right to defend itself.  In this particular context of course it does mean between Israel and Lebanon. Although being a pacifist this whole escalating mess is horrifying.

"People never do evil so throughly and happily as when they do it from moral conviction."-Blaise Pascal
by chocolate ink on Fri Jul 28th, 2006 at 12:59:22 PM EST
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I was asking Messy, not you. Because if Messy tries to argue that Lebanon needs to defend itself from Hezbollah, I have some news for him.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 28th, 2006 at 01:08:23 PM EST
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Kinda thought so but it didn't hurt to make my position more clear either.

"People never do evil so throughly and happily as when they do it from moral conviction."-Blaise Pascal
by chocolate ink on Fri Jul 28th, 2006 at 04:13:36 PM EST
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