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I suspect nanne is more interested in centrist blogs than lefty ones, overall.

However, the key issue here is "ecosystem."

Scoop is a good thing, but ecosystem keys into how both technorati and google and other search engines work. People find scoop sites because of the ecosystem. They stay because of the quality. But you need the ecosystem.

Also, lots of good bloggers are (for better and for worse, I suppose) stubbornly individualist and self-promoting. Out in US lefty-land I read stuff by people like Juan Cole, billmon, digby. Sometime I only read it because it's been linked by someone on ET or dKos, but the fact is, the "individualists" produce a lot of the good content that keeps discussion on the big US scoop sites going.

That's part of what is missing. Not just blogrolling, but the sort of regular reading and referencing each other. And no, I'm not sure how we "make" it happen, but it's worth thinking about.

[Now I think about it, perhaps "specialists" is better word than "individualists".]

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Aug 25th, 2006 at 06:34:40 PM EST
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That's part of what is missing. Not just blogrolling, but the sort of regular reading and referencing each other. And no, I'm not sure how we "make" it happen, but it's worth thinking about.

I agree wholeheartedly.  

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Fri Aug 25th, 2006 at 06:37:25 PM EST
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Metatone, you hit the nail on the head there with the ecosystem.

I'm personally interested in all kinds of blogs (also Billmon, Eschaton and Juan Cole, though politically I'm closer to Talking Points Memo in US terms).

But I do miss a sensible center-right blog in this picture. EURSOC is as sensible as they get, but still too far right and eurosceptic for my taste. The electoral plurality in the EU Parliament is the pro-European center-right, not raving libertarians or nationalists. They should get blogs.

I also think that the overall number of blogs is way too small for the European Blogosphere to be taken serious as a new or even emerging force in politics. The European Tribune has the largest potential for political organizing and is the most lively blog, so in that sense it's unbeaten. But it's still worthwile to read more, a couple of these other blogs are very intelligent and also generally left.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Aug 25th, 2006 at 07:07:51 PM EST
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The electoral plurality in the EU Parliament is the pro-European center-right, not raving libertarians or nationalists. They should get blogs.

Nanne, if you read Spanish I suggest you take a look at "Libertad Digital". This is what the self-described "pro-European centre-right" looks like in Spain. I think you may be thinking of the CDU which seems not to be half as rabid as Spain's PP.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 2nd, 2006 at 05:01:59 PM EST
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Unfortunately I don't speak Spanish. The PP is looking pretty ugly, yes. I was indeed thinking of the CDU, or it's Dutch and Belgian counterparts, or the French Gaullists.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Sep 3rd, 2006 at 10:57:29 AM EST
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You mean the Dutch right wing that graced us with the Ayaan Hirsi Ali scandal, or the French Gaullists of Sarkozy [who was a keynote speaker at the PP convention a few months ago]?

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 3rd, 2006 at 11:27:26 AM EST
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Ayaan Hirsi Ali was a member of the neoliberal VVD party (who in the EU are members of ALDE, I think), and it was the somewhat more right-wing immigration minister from this party who more or less caused the scandal. Verdonk lost the internal party vote for leading the VVD into the elections, by the way.

The Dutch counterpart of the CDU is the CDA, from which Balkenende himself comes. They are as center-right as you can be while being on the right wing in the Netherlands (the balance having shifted somewhat).

The French UMP is also fairly center-right, I think. Here too it is the person (Sarkozy) who on the right wing of the party, from which you also have de Villepin.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Sep 3rd, 2006 at 05:50:03 PM EST
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The European Tribune has the largest potential for political organizing and is the most lively blog, so in that sense it's unbeaten.

In terms of orders of magnitude we have about one registered user (not regular commenter) per million English speakers. We have a lot to grow.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 2nd, 2006 at 05:03:26 PM EST
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