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and to make this really clear. It is the way the emporer draws the conclusion, not the conclusion itself that is importent for the further development of the thought. Because in the way the emporer draws the conclusion he displays reason. Ratzinger might also agree that violence is not the right way to convince someone, but that is not why he brings this problem up.
by PeWi on Fri Sep 15th, 2006 at 05:35:01 AM EST
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Does Ratzinger realize that he speaks to a global audience and not to a seminar of academic theologians?

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 15th, 2006 at 05:39:54 AM EST
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I'm not sure that I subscribe to the criticism implied by Migeru's reply, but I have another quibble: if there is a tendency in what is quoted from others, one unrelated to the structure of the argument, then the quoter is culpable.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Sep 15th, 2006 at 06:17:59 AM EST
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To large extent. To me it looks like the classic problem of not what you say, but the way how you say it. Heaven knows (sorry, pun) I've been guilty of that so often.

The pope would have been walking a fine line past two pitfalls if Pewi's explanation was indeed Ratzinger's motivation. On one hand criticizing the blindness of Enlightenment & Reason (but he has done that before on a plenty of occassions so nothing really new there), and on one hand the tender issue of Islam today. Guess he fell into the Islam pitfall (kettle?) today.

by Nomad on Fri Sep 15th, 2006 at 06:39:39 AM EST
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Right, it's not what the emperor said but how he formulated it. Mr. Ratzinger could just as easily have explained what the quote was meant to illustrate in clear, concrete language. He is a very smart man. Can you believe it: a fifteenth century BYZANTINE emperor! He knows that as 'the representative of god on earth' his every word is examined. He also knows that by hiding behind a distant political figure he can make a statement which appeals to the basest instincts of his base while not being directly responsible for it. He throws up balloon: will it float? Evidently it does. Ratzinger very cheekily excuses himself for such a 'brusque' remark which he has very carefully considered and weighed for content and effect. Make no mistake about it, he says nothing lightly and casually. This man has always walked away from the light at the end of the tunnel.
by Quentin on Fri Sep 15th, 2006 at 06:44:30 AM EST
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