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Yeah, the trick would be to always just run close to empty, always finding a new source just in time.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Wed Sep 6th, 2006 at 09:31:51 PM EST
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I don't think this is true even from a theoretical economics standpoint, but it is certainly false for two reasons:

  1. At a certain profit level governments of the nations oil companies are based in will seize their profits as was threatened by the US government this year (in states where the oil companies aren't already nationalised, anyway).

  2. As the price of oil increases it becomes increasingly tempting for governments of oil producing states to seize assets of foreign oil companies (or nationalise internal privately held producers) as has happened this year in Venezuala and Bolivia. When oil was at $10 a barrel in 1999 this wouldn't have made sense and would have been a loss for governments doing the seizing.

This isn't lost on oil companies, and they will do anything to prevent it from happening. Since oil is the basis of our civilization, it can only be a commodity in the same sense as, say, orange juice when supply can meet demand. If that were to cease being the case, oil would change from a commodity to a strategic asset, and corporate control of oil would end.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 12:21:56 AM EST
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"If that were to cease being the case, oil would change from a commodity to a strategic asset, and corporate control of oil would end."

interesting thought

by fredouil (fredouil@gmailgmailgmail.com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 03:38:59 AM EST
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That's what's happening. Energy is leaving the economic realm and going back into the political realm, which it should never have left in the first place as it has always been strategic.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 06:19:38 AM EST
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Hear, hear!

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 08:50:41 AM EST
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I see your point, but see jolado's diary "Peak Oil = Myth..."  One could also argue that the examples of Venezuela and Bolivia relate more to governments with particular socialist/nationalistic slants, not to say it couldn't happen elsewhere.  The other argument would be that multi-national oil companies are already effectively outside the control of most governments, including that of the US.  

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 02:10:23 PM EST
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No company is outside government control as long as said companies do not have militaries.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 04:30:07 PM EST
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How about Blackwater and friends?

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 04:33:49 PM EST
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Well indeed, I didn't mean to imply that it doesn't exist. I also vaugely recall some discussion here a while back about mercenaries employed in Africa to protect oil assests. It's a worrying trend but not a primary theme of control in the big picture quite yet.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 05:24:08 PM EST
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