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("can't we all get along, this is a freedom of expression issue")

That really is not what I've been trying to say.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Tue Jan 16th, 2007 at 01:49:42 PM EST
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I know I am vastly oversimplifying your point of view here, and it is unfair of me to do so because in truth, you have (at least as far as I see) a comprehensive approach to this issue, 90% of which I am in full agreement with, ie the larger problem to tackle is underneath the symbol, it may be in some cases an issue (we may disagree on the extent to which it is) and in these cases it might need to be addressed.

Am I inaccurate though to presume the standard "freedom of expression" formulation, having nothing necessarily to do with being a symbol of oppression of women, as seen in the discussion you were having with Helen?

That's really the only bone to pick I have, though it's a rather important one in Europe these days (perhaps far less so elsewhere).

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill

by r------ on Wed Jan 17th, 2007 at 11:17:29 AM EST
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Sorry for the late response.  Been sort of out of commission.

My argument at its most simple, I guess, is that a singleminded fixation on banning or restricting use of the the hijab is at best counterproductive and divisive, and at worst (as in Bavaria) nakedly racist.

Freedom of expression may be implicit in that, but it's not the core of the argument at all.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Jan 18th, 2007 at 03:29:15 AM EST
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