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First word-day witht the south railway network iN barcelona (half the lines ) not working...

Huge delays, people pissed off but still not complete colapse.. it can still get worse...

http://www.lavanguardia.es/

http://www.lavanguardia.es/lv24h/20071022/53404872676.html

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/Barcelona/afronta/caos/ferroviario/elpepuesp/20071022elpepunac _1/Tes

Roughly 10 km of lines with cars int the southern highways.. plus delays of 30 minutes 1 hour of the alternativve bus system  to cover the lines....

I must say I live right ont he south of Barcelona...and the line I take everyday is one of the collapsed.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 04:18:40 AM EST
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I saw yur comment yesterday, but I'd appreicate a diary giving some of the backstory as to how this came about. Why was there no investment for 10 years in the local services ? What was the political pressure that meant that the engineers involved were not able to prevent this ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 07:36:38 AM EST
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More like no investment in 30 years. But definitely the last time there was a big push for commuter rail in Barcelona was on the occasion of the 1992 Olympics.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 09:39:25 AM EST
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Yes.. there was investment in trains in the 1988-1992 period with some remaining until 1996.... then... nothing until 2006...

Zp not realizing the the huge lack of investment in 2004 on was his big mistake.. of course he did not want to antagonize the right-wing sectors or try to convince other regions of the spain that Catalonia had problems with investment.... because the narrative (contrary to all data available) says that catalonia does not need the investment because its rich and they take all the money they want from the cnetral government anyhow.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 10:44:11 AM EST
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Any likelihood that ZP might lose enough votes in Catalonia as a result of this to lose the March 2008 elections?

It was pointed out in a radio debate this morning that since the 1993 elections the support of the Catalan Nationalists of CiU was absolutely necessary to approve the national budget every year except for 2000-2004. Also, from 1979 to 2003 the Regional Government was in the hands of CiU. However, the Mayor of Barcelona has been a Socialist all this time. So it would be cynical for CiU to campaign in Barcelona on this issue, since when they had the political power to influence the National Government to invest on Barcelona's infrastructure, they did nothing.

It was also mentioned that in 1982-86 the Socialist government decided that rail was a thing of the past. They quickly corrected themselves, but if it hadn't been for the 1992 Expo and Olympic games, Spain still might not have any high-speed trains.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 10:53:06 AM EST
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The center  CIu party will indeed campaign onthis... given that there are both lack of money and bad govbernance.. they will focus on bad governance.... trying that nobody recalls tha this udnerinvestment comes froma history where all political parties left and trright including them are guilty...

A general dislike for trains plus a general dislike for catalonai in the rest of spain among some sectors(in madird sepcially) joined to produce this disaster of really epic proportions.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 at 11:26:33 AM EST
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