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As simple citizens, do you think we can have desires and opinions about various countries joining the Union based on principles rather than that countries' current public opinion? (And can we have an opinion on local public opinion?) *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
My opinion is that the EU should not have expansion to any definite borders as a goal, nor should it "set its final borders" (doublespeak for "keep Turkey out") —that's the kinds of principles I sometime find annoying: expansion is a practical matter, not a matter of principle—, and personally I have 1) given up on trying to convince Norway and Switzrland to join; 2) come to the conclusion that there is a value to having small countries like Norway and Switzerland which are in the orbit of the EU but more independent so they can try to do things differently. We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo
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