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EU membership is neither necessary nor sufficient to cooperate on tackling climate change. Regarding money laundering... what is the likelihood that the EU will agree to that, and wouldn't that be a problem already with the EEA free market rules? How do decisions get made on what applies to the EEA?

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 21st, 2007 at 11:28:41 AM EST
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There seems to be a view that European countries must be either in the EU or condemned to outer darkness and (implicitly) a Third World and/or vassal status.

But Norway demonstrates that is its possible to have your cake and eat it, too

ie it's both/and not either/or and they are free to have a look at what the EU is proposing and then to adapt or adopt it according to taste.

Not that they reject much, and indeed they tend rather to adopt more rapidly, and more comprehensively than the funereal pace of most EU initiatives - which, with enlargement, can only get slower.

In terms of Jerome's point re climate change, the initiative IMHO can only come from energy producers acting collectively and putting to the EU and US alike an offer they cannot refuse.

I believe that Norway is uniquely well placed to lead that process if they could only summon up the self confidence to add to their innate (and currently rather tarnished) sense of moral superiority.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Oct 21st, 2007 at 12:03:29 PM EST
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I believe that Norway is uniquely well placed to lead that process if they could only summon up the self confidence to add to their innate (and currently rather tarnished) sense of moral superiority.

I believe Jerome agrees...

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 21st, 2007 at 12:12:15 PM EST
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There seems to be a view that European countries must be either in the EU or condemned to outer darkness and (implicitly) a Third World and/or vassal status.

The EU as "manifest destiny". Me not like.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Oct 21st, 2007 at 12:15:23 PM EST
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The EU is certainly more likely to get anything ever done on the climate change front - unless Norway suddenly decided to stop unsequestering all their carbon and leave it it the ground instead of digging it up.

My point was not about money laundering, but about sovereignty. Those countries that are so proud of their freedom and independence should not have any complaints about the EU taking decisions that would deprive them of their main livelihood and reveal them as utterly dependent on it.

It's easy to have a holier-than-thou attitude when you are the richer, smaller parasite of a larger organism.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Oct 21st, 2007 at 12:47:39 PM EST
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