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There are some important differences.

For Hitler to institute a police state and declare a war of aggression, he actually needed to extra-legally murder a number of his opponents and even his allies, in the Night of the Long Knives, after which Germany's jurisprudes decided (of course) that such actions were perfectly legal. (I conjecture that all jurisprudes in all nations would do the same faced with such circumstances ... English judges already crap it when faced with the prospect of pissing off a 'democratic' parliament, so lord knows how they would do under the threat of being murdered ...)

But the US has gone to a similar stage without such a thing happening. Bush didn't have to draw up in a car with some of his mates and get them to start shooting people, and have the CIA do the same across the country. He just bullshitted everyone, and everyone said, 'Yeah, OK.'

The uncomfortable truth is that the people of the US have already exceeded the people of the Third Reich in terms of moral culpability for acts such as aggressive war and the murder of millions. You don't get killed for standing up to Bush. But you got thrown in the KZ in short order for standing up to Hitler. The penalty you face for resistance does have some practical impact on moral culpability. Very few people can be expected to be good at the price of their lives. It is reasonable to expect a higher standard from people who do not face such a cost.

Yeah, the death toll is smaller, but things are just starting up. And let's face it, the US has proven no slouch at killing millions of defenceless people in the past.

by wing26 on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 11:30:04 AM EST
You do not have to execute people on the main square to convince them they are under a death threath. And if you can convince them to vote in dictatorship you can most certainly get them to shut up regarding death threaths.

2001 anthrax attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its FBI case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on September 18, 2001. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two Democratic U.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others. The crime remains unsolved. Senator Patrick Leahy, one of the recipients of an anthrax letter, publicly stated just before the sixth anniversary of the case that he believes people within the US government know the source of the anthrax powder.[1]

2001 anthrax attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Although the anthrax preparations were of different grades, all of the material derived from the same bacterial strain. Known as the Ames strain, it was first researched at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), Fort Detrick, Maryland. The Ames strain was then distributed to at least fifteen bio-research labs within the U.S. and six locations overseas.

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Now, I will not claim that it was perceived as a general death threath to opposing politicians and journalists. Perceived among themselves that is. I have no way of proving that, in fact it is the sort of thing that generally stays unclear until a regime falls and archives are opened or until people die and historians are let into archives and given access to letters and diaries. I am merely submitting that it is a possibility which (if true) I think would go a long way in explaining the extremely weak spines in DC.

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by A swedish kind of death on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 04:49:14 PM EST
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Senator Wellstone falling out of the sky, in (yet another!) mishap that was not properly investigated.  

And then, of course, the Cheney hunting accident.  

The Bushco death-threats are really not so subtle.  

But their real effect comes from the fact that even as they rattle opponents, the public refuses to notice them.  

It is the denial and collaboration which is the heart of the disease.  

Unlike Hitler, Bush is really incompetent, and without the denial and collaboration would have been swept away (voted out or impeached) long ago.  

The Fates are kind.

by Gaianne on Sun Oct 28th, 2007 at 04:18:39 AM EST
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And then, of course, the Cheney hunting accident.  

The Bushco death-threats are really not so subtle.

Hmm, what threat did Cheney's hunting partner pose to the Bushistas?

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 1st, 2007 at 05:54:19 AM EST
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You're right, but the retrospective legalization of a murderous purge was just step 9 of 10 in the Gleichschaltung (Wikipedia)
In the summer of 1934, Hitler instructed the SS to kill Ernst Röhm and other leaders of the Nazi party's SA, former Chancellor Kurt von Schleicher and several aides to former Chancellor Franz von Papen in the so-called Night of the Long Knives (June 30, 1934/July 1, 1934). These measures received retrospective sanction in a special one-article Law Regarding Measures of State Self-Defense (Gesetz über Maßnahmen der Staatsnotwehr) (July 3, 1934).


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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Nov 1st, 2007 at 05:51:03 AM EST
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