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Another myth.. human myth describing animal activity where we project our cultural cathegories.... selfishness is not an universa conceptl.. because it s a very complex concept linked with a bunch of other concepts in a coplex networks of links (narratives).

Evolution works at different scales and has a very complex dynamics at each scale. One of the variables in this dynamics is the energy.. roughly half of the animals we see take energy that could be used by other animals.. the other half take energy only if another animal takes energy. Competition or symbiosis in food is one aspect of the network.. and of course we project our meaning to those dynamics as selfishness and cooperation...but animals do not act because of... they just act...

Furthermore the dynamcis of the network is much more complex and actually this variable is not particularly relevant regarding the cahnge in the landscape of species and its internal change....

So..e volution probably has to do more with genetetic-proteic interaction that arieses in the development of the fetus than with the large scale energy in take of the animal already formed....in any case..behavors are probably just one aspect of evolution and not necessarily the most relevant.

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Wed Oct 10th, 2007 at 09:04:20 AM EST
but animals do not act because of... they just act...

Do you mean

--animals have no reasons for their actions

--animals have reasons but as humans we cannot fathom them (except by inaccurate anthropomorphism)

--animals do not rationalise their actions to themselves

--animals may rationalise their actions to themselves, but humans could never know about/comprehend any such rationalisations

or something else?  My experience is that animals have good reasons for their actions; and the more complex the animal and/or environment the more its visible (including humans), so I think I have not understood


Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Oct 10th, 2007 at 11:16:17 AM EST
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animals do not perform activites with human mind structures... here by animals I mean from virus, bacteria to dolphins... for any one of them you can be sure that they do not have any human concept on their mind when acting.... so from our point of view.. they just do.. from their own point of view... I have no idea.One would guess a virus and a bacteria do not have nay partiuclar point of view... onc eyou ahve a central nervous system.. well who knows how perception works... even for monkeys (although in this last one we may know a bit)

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Wed Oct 10th, 2007 at 01:04:51 PM EST
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