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I think the important thing is compensating local residents who have to live with these massive industrial (yes, industrial) installations.

If I had bought a house on a remote greek island, I didn't do it to have the calmness and serenity ruined by a dozen massive towers with immense spinning blades.

Compensation is crucial.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Mon Nov 26th, 2007 at 12:26:13 PM EST
External costs must be internalised.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Mon Nov 26th, 2007 at 12:30:48 PM EST
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how spinning wind turbines evoke anything but calm and serenity. They are grand, graceful and simply beautiful.

And the absolute proof that wind turbines are a great sight is how companies with no obvious link to wind energy will find ways to put one on the cover of their annual report - ie there is no object with more positive symbolism - no image that people would rather see, as per the amrketing and PD departments of all these corporations.

And people with actual wind farms near thir houses overwhelmingly agree.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Nov 26th, 2007 at 04:04:45 PM EST
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Sure, they are positive symbols on the front of corporate reports, far less for those who get them built close to their homes. They are still a very large and very obvious intrusion into nature.

But of course, if they are a positive external cost, maybe the people living close to them should actually pay the power company for the improved view? Though I'm not sure how well that would be recieved.

You might find them beautiful, well actually so do I, granted that they stay far away from my back yard.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Mon Nov 26th, 2007 at 04:45:03 PM EST
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I agree completely with Jerome on this. I took the train from Kyoto to the west coast of Japan a couple of years ago, and, across an enormously long lake (Ban, I think), there was a huge, gleaming white, graceful wind machine. It looked like it belonged just as much as the egrets in the rice paddy canals.

In October I was driving in central Washington state, and, across the Columbia River, there was a double array of turbines with the blades turning in random orientations. It was a magnificent sight.

The normal operating sound is sort of soothing. Can't wait to get one or more of "my own".

paul spencer

by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Nov 26th, 2007 at 05:34:29 PM EST
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