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Sketchy bullet points, my ass.  This is a fantastic diary.

(Er, sorry, arse.)

So what we need to do is... start a cult? ;-)

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sun Dec 30th, 2007 at 01:27:34 PM EST
That, and buy some mass media.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Dec 30th, 2007 at 01:46:57 PM EST
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I was going to say that.. yeah buy media, buy media, buy media.. and once we have enough media and all the narratives we have developed here are given light..then pay for scholars, pay for scholars...or loof for the next Isaac Asimov.. the next Carl Sagan.. we need them... we need that being a Carl sagan gets you more prestige than winning the Nobel Price... and we need it to make it easy.

we need these guys.. we neeed the people who infuse science with magic and present the hows in a wodnerful accuarate and metaphoric way and open new possibilitites for the why questions.. becasue answering the "why me"; "why we are here", "why is everything like that" creates the social bonding we need: the social bonding that our left-wing principles need.

But first, buy media.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sun Dec 30th, 2007 at 04:52:24 PM EST
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Well I don't know that "we" need to start a cult. (Mind you, The Elucidated Brethren of Caol Ila perhaps?)

However, those who really believe that secular values need to displace religious ones in society certainly need to think about what that means institutionally and critically how that framework likely cannot be provided by the state and as such will have to actually, attract and "provide value" to people.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sun Dec 30th, 2007 at 02:42:41 PM EST
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Ooooh, I'd join that.  Except... um, can a woman join a brethren?  The Elucidated Siblinghood just doesn't have the same ring to it.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sun Dec 30th, 2007 at 03:12:56 PM EST
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Brethren and Sisteren then ;-)

Communion should be fun in the new religion.  ;-)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Dec 30th, 2007 at 04:04:44 PM EST
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Don't have priests, in the Catholic Church they hand out wafers and keep the drink for themselves.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Dec 30th, 2007 at 04:42:03 PM EST
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We'd better have landlords instead then.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Dec 30th, 2007 at 04:46:56 PM EST
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