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I'm for keeping the same colour scheme, by and large. The same blue, at least. The lines could be a bit softer.

What would be good is an integrated top-level banner design, which most blogs have (e.g. if you look at DailyKos or MyDD, you have a banner that is integrated with the top level design, which still provides some functions).

Use of fancy design elements (especially: sound, animation, video) will cause the site to load slower, which is bad for the people using it the most. I'm for a clearer design, but against using large elements that only have a design functionality.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 08:48:59 AM EST
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OK I'm reading the words subtle, sober, softer and a generally conservative approach to design change.  I don't have a problem with this, but felt that any comprehensive site design review had to include a consideration of the graphic design elements - even if the decision is to keep things more or less the same.

The fancy bits - sound, animation etc. should in any case  be capable of being switched off by users who don't like them or have a slow connection.

Can I ask a REALLY STUPID QUESTION?  Who funds ET -apart from all the voluntary effort?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 09:51:35 AM EST
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The cost of hosting the site is pretty low and it has mostly been defrayed by Jerome, though we have had a couple of fundraising drives, mostly to do with settling a perceived debt to the people who set up the site originally (it differs considerably from what SCOOP looks like out of the box).

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 10:10:47 AM EST
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Personally, the designer in me tells me that there may be room room for compromise between a 'Whistles & bells' approach and a 'Soft, subdued look'.

What is vital, imo, is that the FP have a logical, easily navigable presentation, which, most members seem to agree, is lacking in its present state.

I agree wholeheartedly with the observation that a first-time user may find the FP confusing, between the variety of entries in the wide central column and the diaries in a tall right hand column, followed, way, way down, by the blogroll and front-pagers. I also find the presentation lacking in warmth, generally speaking.

The comment about making a more legible, representative banner is very important, imo. Notice the banner on The Oil Drum, for instance. Aesthetic considerations aside, it's efficient, providing good visibility to essential parts of the site at a single glance. -- Imo, the ET FP relies too much on links that are situated 'below the fold', in both the left and right hand columns. Additionally, the Menu box in the left column contains a few redundancies in relation to the menu at the top of the page. I think most of those options, FAQ, Home, About, Search, should be grouped together.

I'll leave my comments at that, for now, and will see if I can't grab the time to make a list of what I would consider structural and design improvements, taking into account what is being expressed, here.

I'd just add that this is a very important discussion, in my view. ET is full of content that is as superb as it is unique ... as well as fun. As it stands, the site is great, but it could be greater still through a more coherent structure, and with perhaps a dab of additional warmth.

by Loefing on Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 at 09:45:12 AM EST
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