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I have had the feeling - on more than one occasion - of watching a host of white cells going to work on an errant bacterium...

I've even been that errant bacterium......

As Solveig says, an ET "groupthink" can take over, as with any other group.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 07:22:57 AM EST
Have you been taken over by ET group-think when you qualified FPS Doug Jacob Freeze's comment as trolling?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 08:11:04 AM EST
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Good question.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 08:12:44 AM EST
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Another question: how many people can be on one side of a debate for the other to be named ET group think?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 08:15:37 AM EST
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I wouldn't qualify what happened as "groupthink". However, defining a debate as "one side against the other" is shaping it in a way that makes any  positive outcome almost impossible.

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 08:20:44 AM EST
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I think this talk of groupthink is something stronger, and also reinforces the perception of one side against the other. I don't think the range of opinions was dual, but for those most hurt it seems to have seemed so.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 08:38:22 AM EST
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it's not the numbers, dodo.

it's the scrambling lieutenants syndromeTM.

nice abstraction, though.

thanks for the sterling vibes over the years, you're good people.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 01:32:52 PM EST
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it's the scrambling lieutenants syndromeTM.

That's a perception and a judgement on your part (one I think is both mistaken and offensive).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 01:44:19 PM EST
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whatever, dodo, take it as you will.

your last blog post was 2005, i will write you a full account including stuff i will not post in a public place, if i could know your email.

it is quite a fascinating story, in its microcosmic way.

but do you care?

bye...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 02:20:36 PM EST
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Email with an also non-public indication of the wrongness of your perception of lieutenant syndrome on the way.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 02:49:21 PM EST
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jacob freeze's comment was a sacrificial offering to the in-crowd.

it seems no-one really wants to admit what really happened.

ok....

the truth rarely comes whence expected.

cover the emperor, quick!

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 01:30:12 PM EST
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The above was again very judgemental and divisive. What do you weant to achieve with such comments?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 01:47:38 PM EST
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Judgemental and divisive comments? That's called troll-baiting.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 02:01:25 PM EST
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easy, same thing i'm trying to achieve by my 'fast'.

too bad your email is not available, if you really care to know the answer to that question, i'd happily give you an answer backchannel.

for the record here, when you use your terminology of 'very judgemental and divisive' in a truly impartial way, then i'll take it seriously.

i'd like to leave liking you dodo, but you're pushing it, and i believe you're not carrying your own water here.

just scroll past my comments and ignore me, you're wasting your time.

thanks for making it easier to bail.

have a fun life

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 02:05:44 PM EST
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easy, same thing i'm trying to achieve by my 'fast'.

Which is?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 02:09:58 PM EST
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if you don't get it from reading the diary and comments, colman, i can't help you with any further posting.

give it time, i'm sure it'll sink in.

thanks for all the nice diaries and comments over the years.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 02:25:53 PM EST
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Unfortunately I have received a message from this diary, which I will refrain from posting as it reflects very badly on you, which I hope isn't the message you intended to send. Therefore I ask for clarification.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 02:37:11 PM EST
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With metavision's words, it is bad form to leave for reflection while putting some knives in some backs.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 02:26:27 PM EST
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getting warm, solveig too.

thanks for your fine intelligence and great goofy humour, and to solveig for all the silent 4's.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 01:26:50 PM EST
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