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I don't think the coop situation is catastrophic, but it depends on the country. As far as I know, the figures for the market share of the consumers co-operatives in UK are true. But in Japan, for example, consumers co-operatives are huge and very powerful.

For employment figures, it is difficult to find them. The ICA claims that co-operatives represent over 100 millions of employees worldwide (and 800 millions of members).

If you need data on co-operatives, I can try to find them with the ICA.

Do you think it would be interesting to organise a chat on ET with a representative of the Co-operative movement? I think I could organise it.

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Sat Feb 24th, 2007 at 11:29:41 AM EST
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I didn't search real hard, but I'm surprised that the coop  movement publications I could find are about 99.99% narrative with little or no comparative data.

The only quantitative data I could find is the "Employee Ownership Index", but last datapoint is in 2005 ...

http://www.equityincentives.co.uk/resources/news.aspx

(and it's not really coop).

The Reeves paper is 29 pages, and has only one data point.

I do believe that publishing data will have vastly more impact on public opinion than creating an MBA, so yes I'm really interested in the chat with knowledgable people you're proposing :).

I'm in Paris, but I can travel if face to face is necessary.

Disclaimer: I own 60 000 euros of coop shares (mostly "La Nef").

by Laurent GUERBY on Sat Feb 24th, 2007 at 12:10:05 PM EST
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I was thinking of an online chat on ET...

However, I can put you in contact with people from the co-operative movement. The ICA is located in Geneva and its president lives in Bologna.

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Sat Feb 24th, 2007 at 12:48:21 PM EST
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As you know, I am fascinated by ICA - thanks to you!  I would be great to introduce them to ET - they'd get a lot of feedback and encouragement.

If Jerome hasn't registered a new domain yet - then a .coop would be a good gesture. (Available via the ICA site)

I think if we could put ChrisCook's ideas on Open Capital together with coops, and then use the web to connect people together. it would be possible to build empowering organizations with very low transaction costs.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Feb 24th, 2007 at 01:22:48 PM EST
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I believe that the optimal enterprise model could well consist of an LLP/LLC "Coop of Coops" ie to combine in an LLP "Wrapper" a John Lewis-style employee coop with a Retail Coop owned by its customers - and with any necessary investment coming from these stakeholders as "Capital Partners" through simply "buying revenues forward".

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Feb 24th, 2007 at 06:54:35 PM EST
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Yes, it is this *'Buying Revenues Forward''' that really changes the game,
 IMO.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Feb 25th, 2007 at 12:03:24 AM EST
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Travel only if necessary, a chat is perfectly fine!
by Laurent GUERBY on Sat Feb 24th, 2007 at 03:01:10 PM EST
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chat => online chat on ET
by Laurent GUERBY on Sat Feb 24th, 2007 at 03:01:40 PM EST
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