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Well.. it ismore like that I think people here assumed the framwork of storm, where poor means "less number of things" in western mythology.

In thi ssense, poor is a good adjective.. the problems is maybe that we use the same word for two (or even three) completely different things.

You can count. We missuse poor for miserable (lack of food,, shelter, clothes and very basic health-care assistance like sanitation, clean water...).

then we also mean poor for, the lower class in apoor society, which are not miserable but they do nto have relevant power and could live in culturally-depressing lives (violence, structure depression...)

You can also mean poor by "less than the average".. like in first-world countries. there, each country is a world so to speak... and the real measure of poverty should be compered with the lower classes of poor countries. And it is not alwasy easy to c ompare.

then we also use poor for people who are actually rich in their environment and culture.. they just do not have th enotions of being poor and stillw e label them as such.

And finally, we also have poverty of "items".. or the fact that some poeple can not have all whata middle-class or consumerism or, more properly speaking, middle status factors.

I think storm was using this last use of the word. He may correct me.

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Feb 5th, 2007 at 05:15:02 PM EST
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To tell you the truth, I wasn't actually thinking of items, I was thinking more in terms of Tariq Ramadan's quote regarding comfort v. lacking the means to survive.  But in the context of the quotes from nanne's diary, which do have to do with means of production and goods, it perhaps made sense that it was interpreted as referring to things.  And perhaps the key lies in noting the difference in the way the concept of "poverty" is perceived.  We do not all define poverty or wealth in the same way, whether it's our own or that of others.  One of the biggest adjustments for me in moving to Africa was getting used to being thought of (and treated) as a rich person.

p.s.... I'm a she.  No worries, happens a lot.  ;-)

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Mon Feb 5th, 2007 at 05:43:43 PM EST
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Je je

the he is the spanish way to put everything on the male version as you may know.

I write always "he" no matter the sex of the other peson except when I think about it carefully...

and if I am not sure or I am not suppose to know I just use the spanish "he"...j ejejjee

:)

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Feb 6th, 2007 at 06:57:47 AM EST
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