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According to the story, France introduced the convention in the UN General Assembly last year. Looking at the investigation carried out by the COuncil of Europe and the European Parliament, it is clear that France was the only country whose territory and airspace was avoided by the CIA in its secret flights/prisons and rendition operations. The omission was significant, and provides some context for this.

I want to scream with shame and rage. What is the Council of Europe saying about this?

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 7th, 2007 at 02:15:20 PM EST
Le Monde explains that France was a prime mover in a first treaty during the 1970s, particularly "inspired" by the disappearances in Argentina. This time, France and Argentina have worked closely together on the new treaty, and presented it together yesterday in Paris. (France and Argentina are playing football right now, Argentina just scored).

Here's a bit more from an editorial:

Mais, pour entrer en vigueur, le traité doit être ratifié par vingt Etats. Il faut souhaiter qu'il le soit le plus rapidement possible. Le texte a été adopté à l'unanimité par l'assemblée générale de l'ONU, mais de nombreux pays étaient réticents. S'ils ont finalement dit oui, c'était avec l'espoir, sans doute, de limiter ultérieurement les retombées du texte. Parmi ceux-ci figurent la Russie, l'Algérie, la Colombie, Etats où les forces de l'ordre sont accusées d'être impliquées dans de nombreux crimes et disparitions forcées.

La convention pose indirectement la question des "prisons secrètes" américaines de la CIA, une pratique employée par l'administration Bush dans sa lutte antiterroriste. Certaines prisons auraient été situées en Europe, ce qui met en cause la responsabilité des gouvernements concernés. Les grands pays démocratiques seraient donc bien inspirés de donner l'exemple, avant de faire la leçon au reste de la planète.

But, to be applied, the treaty must be ratified by twenty states. It's to be hoped that it will be as quickly as possible. The text was unanimously approved by the General Assembly of the UN, but numerous countries were reticent. If they finally said yes, it was in the hope, no doubt, of limiting fall-out later on. Among them were Russia, Algeria, Colombia, states where the police are accused of involvement in many crimes and forced disappearances.

The convention indirectly poses the problem of the American "secret prisons" of the CIA, a practice used by the Bush administration in its anti-terrorise struggle. Some of these prisons were allegedly situated in Europe, which engages the responsibility of the governments concerned. So the major democratic countries would be well-inspired to give an example, before handing out lessons to the rest of the planet.

Not that it gets us far on the motives of Spain and Italy, for example.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Feb 7th, 2007 at 03:33:29 PM EST
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According to a commenter on Escolar:
#546. Publicado por Etólogo - Febrero 7, 2007 09:31 PM.

Es verdad. Con lo de los vuelos no habría nada que hacer.

En lo de las fosas no y sí, Migeru, porque la ARMH viene remitiéndose desde hace tiempo a la Resolución 47/133 (18.12.1992) y, caso de ratificar el gobierno de Zapatero, tendrían AÚN MENOS argumentos para seguir toreándolos en el tema de las exhumaciones, las identificaciones ADN, etc. (en este aspecto, lo de la Ley de la Memoria Histórica es un mal chiste).

#546. Published by Etólogo - February 7, 2007 09:31 PM.

That's right. On the [CIA] flights there would be nothing to do.

On the collective graves [from the civil war] yes and no, Migeru, because the ARMH [Association for the Recovery of Historical Memory] has been referring back to Resolution 47/133 (18.12.1992) for quite some time and, in case the government of Zapatero ratifies [the new treaty], they would have EVEN FEWER arguments to continue their delaying tactics onthe issue of unearthings, DNA identifications, and so on. (On this feature, the Law of Historical Meomry is a bad Joke).

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 7th, 2007 at 05:38:33 PM EST
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Why would Zapatero (or the PSOE for that matter) sigue toreándolos (great word, by the way) on this issue?
by Matt in NYC on Wed Feb 7th, 2007 at 09:28:54 PM EST
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We need a diary on the cowardly Law of Historical Memory. It's all about not rrocking the boat.

Any suggestions on how to translate 'torear' in this context?

I'll ask Etólogo to write a diary on it.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 8th, 2007 at 02:58:26 AM EST
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I've been meaning to write on the Law of Historical Memory and about the common graves of the Civil War.

But that is going to be some time, I've been meanining to write a lot, but I'm taking an econometrics course, and that seems to consume something like two full days to complete the assignments for.  

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Thu Feb 8th, 2007 at 08:01:01 AM EST
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"continue delaying tactics" was inspired, much better than my dictionary's:

(c) (fig) to keep at bay; to tease, draw on; to put off, keep guessing.

PS I look forward to that diary. I can't think of anything I feel more strongly about than "historical memory." The U.S., for example, wouldn't be in Iraq today if we weren't too sclerotic and brain-damaged to remember our debacle in Vietnam. And I've long thought that both Germany and South Africa should have permanent seats on the Security Council for the examples they've set the world on that score.

by Matt in NYC on Thu Feb 8th, 2007 at 09:27:51 PM EST
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"... it is clear that France was the only country whose territory and airspace was avoided by the CIA in its secret flights/prisons and rendition operations."

Which is why, no matter how puritanical and anti-smoking that once-great nation gets, I'll always be a gallophile.

Vive la France!

by Matt in NYC on Wed Feb 7th, 2007 at 09:12:04 PM EST
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