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http://www.kavanaghfamily.com/articles/2003/20030618jfc.htm


In the 12 year period during and following the Confederation revolt, from 1641 to 1652, over 550,000 Irish were killed by the English and 300,000 were sold as slaves, as the Irish population of Ireland fell from 1,466,000 to 616,000. Banished soldiers were not allowed to take their wives and children with them, and naturally, the same for those sold as slaves. The result was a growing population of homeless women and children, who being a public nuisance, were likewise rounded up and sold. But the worse was yet to come.

In 1649, Cromwell landed in Ireland and attacked Drogheda, slaughtering some 30,000 Irish living in the city. Cromwell reported: "I do not think 30 of their whole number escaped with their lives. Those that did are in safe custody in the Barbados." A few months later, in 1650, 25,000 Irish were sold to planters in St. Kitt. During the 1650s decade of Cromwell's Reign of Terror, over 100,000 Irish children, generally from 10 to 14 years old, were taken from Catholic parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In fact, more Irish were sold as slaves to the American colonies and plantations from 1651 to 1660 than the total existing "free" population of the Americas!

But all did not go smoothly with Cromwell's extermination plan, as Irish slaves revolted in Barbados in 1649. They were hanged, drawn and quartered and their heads were put on pikes, prominently displayed around Bridgetown as a warning to others. Cromwell then fought two quick wars against the Dutch in 1651, and thereafter monopolized the slave trade. Four years later he seized Jamaica from Spain, which then became the center of the English slave trade in the Caribbean.

by Laurent GUERBY on Sat Mar 17th, 2007 at 02:54:31 PM EST
Cromwell certainly seems the bastard, and I think I hate then English now.  I wonder if the English or British goverment has ever acknowledge that this happened.  Ever more so, if accurate, this suggests that the origins of America as a country founded by free migrants fleeing religous oppression is wrong, very, very wrong.

I wonder if there have ever been any books written about this?  Maybe someone should write a book if not.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sat Mar 17th, 2007 at 03:03:21 PM EST
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the origins of America as a country founded by free migrants fleeing religous oppression is wrong

Well, we know that's bullshit because the puritans were not escaping religious opression: they wanted to go to a place where they would be the only religious game in town.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 17th, 2007 at 05:47:22 PM EST
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Well Mig, that's the story, and not everyone knows it's bullshit.

Few if any I imagine know that there were Scots and Irish deported to Massachussetts.  Which is a story in and of itself.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sat Mar 17th, 2007 at 05:59:07 PM EST
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Imagine if it turns out the Kennedys descend from indentured servants who were sold as slaves.

The racist right can always find a way to spin that into a white supremacist frame.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 17th, 2007 at 06:09:52 PM EST
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You realize today's St. Patrick's Day?

The Kennedys I believe came over during the Potato Famine 1848-1849.

In the Caribbean, there were a lot of mixed marriages, and a large number of black Irish.  Blacks who spoke Gaelic.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sat Mar 17th, 2007 at 06:16:51 PM EST
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You realize today's St. Patrick's Day?

LOL, I'm oblivious.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 17th, 2007 at 06:24:51 PM EST
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Actually not all "Kennedys" in America are Irish. Many, like those I'm related to, were Scots or Scots-Irish and came over in the 1600s to 1700s, long before the Irish during the potato famine.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Mar 17th, 2007 at 09:55:23 PM EST
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Well, we know that's bullshit  

I don't think one can even imagine how much of the history ,as we know it, is actually bullshit...And I am sure a lot...at least  from the history I had to witness through my time and what actually has been written in those history books about it...
They say rightly "Winners write history" ...who ever they are...
I wonder what American children are learning about Vietnam war from their history books? No matter that they lost that specific war ...but they are winners in greater sense. What Vietnam's children learn about that war? Is there Universal truth???
I have heard that American ambassador in Serbia (or so) criticized Serbian history books that are telling children about NATO AGGRESSION 1999 on Serbia. He would like to find better word for it, ha-ha. But Serbian children know even without books how that felt when bombs have fallen in their neighborhood ...and killed their loved once. My daughters primary school teacher (and sport trainer) has died amongst others... Some of their school friends went crazy or sick after being drafted to the army...Your ancestors are going to tell you history as it happened. You just need to listen...


Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 07:32:43 AM EST
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Try telling a "Great Patriotic War" Russian veteran that America saved Europe's ass during WWII...
You'll learn the relativity of History.
by balbuz on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 08:25:20 AM EST
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Well yes...that's what I was talking about...truth have more then one side. I wouldn't say purely that "America saved Europe's ass" (maybe just Western Europe's ass from communism, ha-ha) but I would prefer to say that USA helped greatly to defeat Hitler. Bear in mind that more then 20 million of Russians have died in WWII...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 09:22:17 AM EST
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No wonder these nations "love" each other to this very day...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 07:09:37 AM EST
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